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  • JD - you can't tell. I've done a few tastings of Cote Rotie vs ... You ... ... You use only a bit of Viognier. Not all white wines have the same effect, so you need to experiment a bit. Remember that simply because a grape has a lot of something like color, tannin, etc., that doesn't mean you can or want to extract all of it. And sometimes an... Read More

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  • JD, don't knock that co-fermentation, IMHO it really does add positive ... ... that are co-fermented with viognier. Three zones for focus: France, Oz and West Coast of North America. Historically I've also been of the school of thought that, other than in Chateau Grillet's bottlings, viognier's best use was spiffing up a syrah blend...  ; Read More

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  • I see this is set up for a green eggs and ham type conclusion.Can say I feel ... I feel I've tasted the Viognier in Syrah's but probably only because I knew it was there. Looks like Porter Creek is another California Viognier I should try. Just checked their website and they make a Syrah with a 5% Viognier co-ferment, which "rounds out the mou... Read More

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  • Probably not, as I'm not much of a Syrah buff. However, to truly be fair ... wines with and without the Viognier blended in. The blend has always irked me in a way, where I feel Syrah should be able to stand on its own, as it so often does. Though now that I've finally had some good Viognier I should go back and try it with Syrah agai Read More

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  • JDNot sure you are being fair on the Shiraz/Viognier Blend its a core for much of the great Cote Rotie Reds particularly the Guigals and we have some really good ones in Oz, including Clonakilla, Yalumba et al Read More

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  • I've always thought of the Syrah/Viognier combo as uneccesary...it's no peanut butter and jelly anyway. Read More

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  • I like that Jemrose, but Roar's Viognier from the Sierra Mar vineyard was even better. Less of that gluey thing that Viognier can get.  Still, for the $25 or so they discount it for, I've been fine with the Jemrose.  Most of it is pretty blah, IMO.  Best for fixing the color on your Syrah. Read More

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  • OT - With the exception of a few - totally agree. Read More

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  • Count me in as one who has not had a Voignier epiphany. I've had some Condrieu's that were nice and aJemrose that tried to come close but for the most part nah. Tasted a load of Virginia Voignier a few years back and they did nothing for me. IMO it's best used a a blending wine to add florals to Syrah. Read More

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  • Thanks for the pointer on Grillet Dave, that seems like a pretty rare bird, even among wine geeks. Definitely agree that overall the grape promises much more on the nose than it can deliver on the palate, but there's room for a wine like that. Read More

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