Château La Croix St. Georges Winery

• September 2009

  Ok, so back to work eh? --Chapoutier Chateauneuf du Pape Croix de Bois - not familiar with --Chateau du Mourre du Tendre (J. Paumel) Chateauneuf du Pape - not familiar with --Domaine de Cristia Chateauneuf du Pape - can have a bit of new wood and fairly modern levels of... Read moreOk, so back to work eh? --Chapoutier Chateauneuf du Pape Croix de Bois - not familiar with --Chateau du Mourre du Tendre (J. Paumel) Chateauneuf du Pape - not familiar with --Domaine de Cristia Chateauneuf du Pape - can have a bit of new wood and fairly modern levels of concentration and density but the wines remain fairly classic, a very successful enlightened traditional style --Domaine de la Vieille Julienne Chateauneuf du Pape - a lot of wine in the bottle. Big stuff but maybe too big. The Cotes du Rhone on the other hand is consistently one of the best. --Domaine Gramenon Cotes du Rhone Cuvee des Laurentides - Another great value in Cotes du Rhone, more elegant and earthy than the above --Domaine Pontifical Chateauneuf du Pape - In some books this might be called an under-performer. I think it's one of the few wines of the region that have simply remained unchanged during the past decade. Priced well and in truth bested in certain aspects by the top Cotes du Rhones but still enjoyable and a touchstone for the region. --Guigal Chateauneuf du Pape - ordinary, extremely so but it can be a decant value --Henri Bonneau Chateauneuf du Pape - Should not be on this list. It's a wine that has few peers when made well but falters badly at times. There's a group of producers in the world, Quintarelli and Soldera spring to mind, whose wines are incomparable. They are more easily compared to each other than their peers. These are all winemakers who take great risks to achieve brilliance but sometimes fail. --Georges Vernay Condrieu les Chaillees de l`Enfer - Has a good reputations, I sold these several years back at retail and tried them over several vintages but I have difficulty mustering enthusiasm for Viognier --Pierre Dumazet Condrieu Cote Fournet - i am not familiar --Chapoutier Ermitage les Greffieux Vieilles Vignes - never seen this --Guigal Crozes Hermitage - can be a good value in a rather simple but well made syrah --Yann Chave Hermitage - oaky and soapy last time I tried it with little Hermitage character --Paul Jaboulet Aine Hermitage 'La Chapelle' - variable and over-priced --Chapoutier Cote Rotie la Mordoree - modern, nice wine but not what I would consider terribly typical --Rene Rostaing Cote Rotie Cuvee Classique a pretty good value, nice wine nicely made though there was certainly an evolution of style from 1999-2005 which is the last vintage I've tried. These have been rather inexpensive around here. --Guigal St. Joseph Vignes des Hospice - I've never tried this --Paul Jaboulet Aine Cornas Domaine de St. Pierre- I haven't tried this for quite a few years. Jaboulet, along with Delas, used to make some of the best Cornas. They bought fruit from all the producer who now bottle their own. Glorious wines made from the 60's through the late 80's at least. Seems like the price is out ahead of quality though.    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Chateauneuf-du-pape... by Gregory Dal Piaz

  
  

• September 2009

  Branching out a bit further, can I ask for some opinions, Greg, on more southern and northern Rhones? I found your comments above, as always, both informative and useful. Some of the list below I know, but others not, and I'm considering trying them. --Chapoutier Chateauneuf du Pape... Read moreBranching out a bit further, can I ask for some opinions, Greg, on more southern and northern Rhones? I found your comments above, as always, both informative and useful. Some of the list below I know, but others not, and I'm considering trying them. --Chapoutier Chateauneuf du Pape Croix de Bois --Chateau du Mourre du Tendre (J. Paumel) Chateauneuf du Pape --Domaine de Cristia Chateauneuf du Pape --Domaine de la Vieille Julienne Chateauneuf du Pape --Domaine Gramenon Cotes du Rhone Cuvee des Laurentides --Domaine Pontifical Chateauneuf du Pape --Guigal Chateauneuf du Pape --Henri Bonneau Chateauneuf du Pape --Georges Vernay Condrieu les Chaillees de l`Enfer --Pierre Dumazet Condrieu Cote Fournet --Chapoutier Ermitage les Greffieux Vieilles Vignes --Guigal Crozes Hermitage --Yann Chave Hermitage --Paul Jaboulet Aine Hermitage 'La Chapelle' --Chapoutier Cote Rotie la Mordoree --Rene Rostaing Cote Rotie Cuvee Classique --Guigal St. Joseph Vignes des Hospice --Paul Jaboulet Aine Cornas Domaine de St. Pierre Finally, ran across another attractive-looking 2007 Cotes du Rhone, for just under $20: --2007 Le Clos du Caillou “Vieilles Vignes” Cotes du Rhone, North Berkeley Cuvee North Berkeley Imports brings it into the US, and got the winemakers to bottle a special cuvee for them. 80% Grenache, 13% Syrah and 7% Mourvèdre, and it supposedly drinks like a C9dP twice its price. Have some on order, though I haven't tasted it yet.    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Chateauneuf-du-pape... by dmcker

  
  

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