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Snooth User: Diego Andrés Díaz

Your favorite bottle (shape and size)

Posted by Diego Andrés Díaz, Mar 18, 2013.

People always say the important is what is inside, but sometimes the package is very important, too. I really love the elegant and simple shape of the burgundy bottle, the rustic feeling of the Chianti fiasco, and the convenience of a piccolo of champagne. 

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Reply by amour, Mar 18, 2013.

I have a bottle collection of interesting bottles.

I have the Pere Anselme Chateauneuf du pape....like a twisted old vine...Will try to put a photo on.

Will mention various ones later...let others have their say!!!

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Reply by penguinoid, Mar 18, 2013.

I do love the shape of Burgundy bottles too. Alsace/German style bottles look pretty good too, but are a pain to try and fit in with regular wine bottles.

I love half bottles, too. Wish more wines were available in half bottles.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 18, 2013.

Burg bottles won't fit in standard racking without tearing the labels. I wish all wine came in a pedestrian cylindrical bottle for storage reason. Otherwise I love Turley bottles. Very distinct.

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Reply by EMark, Mar 18, 2013.

I've never heard of a "picolo of Champagne."  It sounds small.  My understanding is that a "split" is two glasses.

Responding to your question, once I heard about Verdicchio coming in a "Sophia Loren bottle," that did it for me.  I will make no comment about how it is stacked.

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Reply by duncan 906, Mar 18, 2013.

I like th very feminine shape of some rose wines from Provence

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 18, 2013.

Emark, that was a groaner!  But the wine (Barbera Da Vine) in this bottle was tasty, even if it proved an awkward choice when I ordered it "sight unseen" when dining with a female friend with whom I am purely platonic:

Funny thing is I thought verdicchio came in the fish shaped bottle. 

I just handed off a CdP bottle with gothic lettering and the embossed seal to a newbie.  They are always impressed by them.  So was I.  For decor, the Perrier-Jouet Belle Epoque (aka Fleur) is hard to beat.  But without a doubt, my favorite is... a full bottle. 

That's a shape, right, in the sense that it's a condition?

Size:  Easy.  The 18 liter Stag's Leap  cab at Redd Collection.

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Reply by EMark, Mar 18, 2013.

Fox, I agree that the Verdicchio botttle is fish shaped.  But once I heard that other description, it was all over for me.

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Reply by JRValentine, Mar 18, 2013.

Love Burgundy bottles, but also classic green Bordeaux's.

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Reply by Diego Andrés Díaz, Mar 18, 2013.

18 liters!!!! Thats a huge party!!! CdP is also one of my favorites. The gothic lettering, the golden labels, and the details in the bottle: the keys or the papal coat of arms. It feels like a medieval wine. 

The labels also make great the looks of a bottle of wine. I love Clos du Val label. It's quite humble (at first I tought: this must be a cheap wine) and simple for such a great wine.

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Reply by Tom Wandeloski, Mar 19, 2013.

My favorite bottles come from a winemaker friend of mine - Mark from the Mosel Vineyards in Germany.  These special bottles come in various colors - green, blue, red, etc. and are hand blown and painted.   The corking with a distinctive wax seal adds to the mystique.  :-)

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Reply by SteveWe, Mar 20, 2013.

Aside from Rose wine in a crock (yes, I am that old and had memorable dates with that crock between us), I don't think the bottle makes any difference. Labels, yes; bottles, no. SteveWe

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Reply by penguinoid, Mar 20, 2013.

Unrelated, but I keep reading CdP as Côtes de Provence. Perhaps because I tend to abbreviate Chateauneuf du Pape as Ch9dP. I know, three extra characters...

I saw some very big format bottles in Burgundy, up to 18L and perhaps beyond, I can't remember. I'd like an 18L bottle of a grand cru wine from a good producer & a good year. Not sure when I'd ever get to drink it, mind you.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 20, 2013.

@ STEVEWE - Lancers?

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 20, 2013.

OT, I know that is not yours, but Lancers makes Vinho Verde?  Who knew?

Great collection of gimmicky bottles there, just needs a fish shaped and maybe some cat shaped vessels. 

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Reply by gregt, Mar 20, 2013.

IMO all bottles should be the Bordeaux shaped bottle. It's easiest to store, stack and keep. The Rhone shaped bottles are nicer looking in a way, but if I made wine I'd give up the miniscule difference for practicality. You can always decant. The long bottles you find with some Italian and German wines are a little worse for storing, and worst of all are the squat things that Turley, older Pax, Pride, and some Hungarians use - they're like little disks with a neck and virtually impossible to stack, plus since most people have standardized on a certain diameter for storage purposes, they take up unnecessary space.

Many people care about the packaging, including winemakers, but geez, you can always decant!

Just my 2 cts.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Mar 20, 2013.

I agree that the fatter the base, the bigger a pain to store.  I don't see that it really makes a difference whether the neck tapers gently or has a shoulder, the sediment needs to rest at the bottom for a couple days if it is significant.  It's all about standing out on the shelf. 

Also annoying are bottles with wide shoulders that taper down to the bottom.  Some fancy cabs adopted this, and it makes the bottle more unstable when standing up and harder to stack when lying down.  Then there's the extra tall bottle that commands a center space in my racks, keeping me from using the edges that are slightly blocked by the vertical supports.  (My wooden bordeaux bottle racks can be seen elsewhere. )  I'm really at the place where I am sick of the over the top marketing and wish that all the attention and expense would go towards the wine inside.  Too much to ask. Right up there on the quixotic scale with my effort to get pictures of chateaux banned from labels.

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Reply by edwilley3, Mar 25, 2013.

I find the new bottle for Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve to be a great design. I also really love the new Brut Reserve!


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