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Snooth User: Stunner97

Your everyday cabernet

Posted by Stunner97, Nov 30, 2009.

Was just curious for some input what your favorite everyday value cabernets are that you are all currently enjoying in the under 20 dollar range? Thanks for all your inputs!

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Reply by dmcker, Nov 30, 2009.

Chappellet Mountain Cuvee and Waterstone Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon. You can find both for under $20 if you hunt. Both excellent cabs for the price, especially considering how Napa cab prices have skyrocketed over the past decade.

Chappellet's been around since the '60s, and I didn't really like them all that much during the '80s and early '90s. I've changed my opinion this decade, though. Have just recently discovered the Waterstone, and am very happy with that find.

Reply by TL NJ, Dec 1, 2009.

I always have at least one of each of following $20-or-under cabs on hand, ready to open anytime..

1. Robert Mondavi
2. Berringer
3. Chateau St. Michelle

Its hard to find good values (under $20) from Napa, outside of the the two I mentioned above. I think dollar for dollar Washington is producing much better cabs for the money (perhaps they cannot compete in quality with the top echelon coming out of Napa, but you can easily buy some of Washington's best for the price or below the price of Napa's second, or even third echelon. And I think what you get from Washington $30 or under, blows away the $30-or-under coming out of Napa). Of course, this is strictly my opinion. That said, here are some other Washigton Cabs under $20 that I really enjoyed.

1. Columbia Crest
2. Covey Run
3. Betz
4. Waterbrook

Other than my regular "stand bys" and my Washington's, I also think that Chile is producing excellent value for the cabs they are producing. I was really impressed with the following $20-or-unders from Chile

1. Concha y Toro - Marques de Casa
2. Casa Lapostolle - Cuvee Alexander
3. Errazuriz - Max Reserva
4. Haras de Pirque - Character
5. Santa Rita - Medalla

I hope that helps


Reply by dmcker, Dec 1, 2009.

Would be interesting if GregDP did a blind tasting of all the cabs mentioned above (and maybe throw in a couple of Bordeaux ringers in the same general price range)...

Reply by rhill2990, Dec 1, 2009.

I am partial to Moon Mountain Cab produced in Sonoma County. Very nice for the price. I found this on special at my local wine connect for about $8 per bottle.

Reply by rar8888, Dec 1, 2009.

In the $20 range I enjoy
1) William Hill Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley
2) Artesa Cabernet Sauvignon Napa County Sonoma County
3) Beaulieu BV Napa Cabernet Sauvignon

I believe that all three are widely available in the US or at least they are in Chicago. I would love to see the results from an everyday cab tasting.

Reply by WineForNewbies2, Dec 2, 2009.

I would second the idea of Ch. Ste. Michelle. If you can find it, Chile's Rayun has a killer cab that's very nicely priced. Columbia Crest is always reliable. Those are the ones I can think of this early in the morning.

Reply by madmanny, Dec 2, 2009.

The J. Lohr cabs are very nice at about $13-$15 a bottle. I serve them at larger parties and always get compliments on it.

Reply by Winediamonds, Dec 2, 2009.

clos du bois cab, edna valley & robert strong cabs all around 12 - 18. great when they are sale. cheers

Reply by sarah hunt, Dec 2, 2009.

Help needed for beginner in UK. What does 'bad price' mean when everything is marked bad price? Hope someone can help.

Reply by chadrich, Dec 2, 2009.

Louis Martini also makes a respectable cab at around $17.

Reply by wlstiles3, Dec 4, 2009.

Montes 07, Liberty School, Root:1

Reply by MDJ, Dec 5, 2009.

Any good cabs that are not to fruity for under 10.00. I have come down from the good stuff. Mondavi cab and sterling and clos du val types. Find the cheaper ones to fruity.Have bought Twisted cab, Lindemans bin 45 cab, etc any ideas

Reply by VegasOenophile, Dec 6, 2009.

I agree with many of the wines posted above and wanted to add a few. I only see it at Sam's Club, but the Veo Ultima from Chile is outstanding value. Other would be, Evil from Australia. Franciscan if you can find a deal, it's less than $20. Benziger makes a good reasonable cab. BR Cohn silver label is a very solid cab for under $20. Steak House by The magnificent Wine Co. in WA is very solid! 75 is a great cab for $20! Fidelitas is also a great one. My mind is going blank, but by the end of all the responses, you should have quite a shopping list Stunner97!

Reply by John Andrews, Dec 6, 2009.

I'd go with Roots Run Deep, Educated Guess Cabernet. I've reviewed it and happily surprised by the quality for the price.

I'd also go with EVIL Cabernet from R Wines. At $9 it is hard to go wrong.

And if you are okay with Cab Blend, I'd go with Tenacity. Maybe harder find than the others. But I like it:

Reply by AdamJefferson, Dec 7, 2009.

If the definition of "everyday" includes something carried at a grocery store you pass "everyday," Columbia Crest is pretty good, and for $20, you can buy two bottles (when its on sale, almost three). Enjoy with grilled hamburgers and crisp slaw, the fixings for which you can buy one or two isles over for a very efficient shopping trip.

Reply by dmcker, Dec 7, 2009.

Probably not possible to find on any aisle in any supermarket, but I've otherwise recently run across a surprising Napa cab blend for just under $20, called The Sum. Grapes by Beckstoffer, wine by Juhasz (of Auteur fame). 75% Cabernet, 15% Syrah, 10% Petite Sirah. Large nose with lots of cherries, other stone fruits (even peaches), also sandalwood, mint, baking spices. Rounded palate, soft, balanced, long with a mild oak kick. Drinks well young, but probably even better in a couple of years. Worth chasing down, especially at this price point. As good as the other two I mentioned towards the top of this thread....

Reply by John Andrews, Dec 7, 2009.

@Adam ... interesting interpretation of the term 'everyday wine'. I don't disagree with it but my definition is more of a wine I can drink everyday but not necessarily one that I can find everywhere. As long as I can find it somewhere for less than $20, I tend to order a bunch of bottles to have for the next time I need it.

Reply by kylewolf, Dec 7, 2009.

Greg Norman puts out a very tasty Cabernet, and an even better shiraz (purely opinion)

Waterwheel cab is often a good buy, but it is difficult to find under $20 (not impossible though)

While I enjoy Rodney Strong, I feel most of the Strongs you purchase under $20 at the grocery store are often too young for immediate consumption.

Stonehedge is a very tasty morsel that I have been chewing on for a while. Found a case of 2000 for dirt cheap... Found they are normally fairly priced.

And while it has been a while, I remember Concannon being worth the $10.

Fortunately for me, I am picking up my specialty wine in 2 weeks, and I will have 30 bottles of specifically designed Cabernet at my disposal : D

Reply by amour, Dec 7, 2009.

I can suggest a fantastic SOUTH AFRICAN ....GOLDEN KAAN
YOU WILL BE AMAZED....costing under $20.


Reply by GregT, Dec 7, 2009.

I agree w the suggestions of dmucker and I think the Chappellet is far superior to many of those mentioned so far, although there are quite a few decent buys. Part of the reason is that the Chappellet people have owned their land for a long time so their cost structure isn't as wacky as some. The Mondavi wines were hit or miss for a long time, maybe they'll be more consistent now. The BV brand is another long-time Napa winery. For my money their Rutherford cab is one of the best buys. The lower end Coastal and Napa wines are OK but don't offer as much. But their pricing is really strange - the list price for the Rutherford is $25 or so but you can get it for under $20 frequently. And the Tapestry is supposed to be around $40 or so, but I'm seeing it for $25. Beringer Knights Valley is sometimes available for under $20 and one of the very best values in Napa is Steltzner claret, always under $20.

I concur with the Chateau St Michelle wines too. Some of those can be found for $12 - $14 and it's hard to find anything in CA at that price/quality level when it comes to cabs or merlot.

A few others that are OK - Toasted Head, Hess, Murphy Goode. But I agree that there are proportionately more in WA - the Liberty School mentioned already, Novelty Hill, Nelms, I think they're all under $20.

Can't think of many cabs under $10 that I'd like to drink. They're out there for sure, but they're usually not very good and I'd look for another grape or blend.

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