GDP on Wine

Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Would anybody travel for a wine dinner?

Original post by Gregory Dal Piaz, Aug 7, 2012.

I'm thinking it would be nice to get as many of you together as possible in one place for a dinner. Is that even feasible?

I would prefer NYC of course, it's local for me, but more to the point I can bring a ton of wine to dinner easily.

If this is support for the idea maybe we can begin to throw around some dates?

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Reply by zufrieden, Oct 30, 2012.

I suppose Friday is far enough away that the water might drain off in time.  Any updates? The information available on television and the internet seems to suggest more than just wet conditions - more like a postdiluvian episode of biblical dimensions.  I cannot attend, but hope that everyone is safe and that perhaps the event can proceed...

Best wishes


Reply by JonDerry, Oct 31, 2012.

How goes it on the ground in NYC?

Heard that the NYSE floor was under 3 ft. of water (outside at least) this morning at one point on CNN.

Looks like if all goes as planned the we'll have an 87' and 96' Dunn Napa, along with the 90' Spottswoode, assuming my package gets delivered...was due to arrive today but is being up due to weather conditions.

Reply by GregT, Oct 31, 2012.

Subways are closed. The tunnels are filled with salt water and there's no power, so they can't be pumped out. Once they're pumped out, which may take a couple days, they'll need to be inspected for damage, etc., before they're started up again. Word is that it may be several weeks. Nobody knows right now. Obviously they're going to try to get things going as soon as possible - most people take subways to work, etc., and there's simply no way to move around w/out them. Cars are out of the question and buses aren't adequate.

Buses are running but they aren't going to be able to handle the number of people who need to go to work and who usually ride the subways, so there are huge delays.

Schools are still closed, which is good because the kids don't need to ride the buses, their parents don't and the teachers don't. That reduces the need for transportation. If schools open, it will be hell and nearly impossible to get around.

The NY Marathon is still scheduled to go on this Sunday.

As of now, I have no way to get into Manhattan for this dinner. There's a chance that the subways running over the bridges will be operating by Friday, and they will probably run buses over the bridges too, but no official word yet. If they do, that may be an option, but who knows.

LaGuardia airport is still closed. JFK and Newark are open as of this morning for limited flights - I haven't seen any planes over my house for three days and that's VERY unusual.

This is the worst natural disaster in NYC history as far as I know. It's much worse than 9/11 in terms of crippling the region because in that case, the damage was localized and much of the inconvenience was due to self-imposed security rules and policies. In this case, there was nothing anyone could do and parts of New Jersey are seriously damaged, as are big parts of NY. The downtown hospitals are closed - the electrical systems and backups are in the basements and of course, those filled with water.

A number of friends and co-workers have no power because trees knocked out power or the poles simply fell and the transformers broke. I'm looking at my neighbor's house right now and just realized his cable connection is lying in his bushes.

Yesterday, out of several hundred people, I was one of three who was in the office.

And the gym is closed.

Other than that, there weren't too many casualties or injuries, the damage is mostly to property and infrastructure. So the thinking is what to do going forward. NYC hasn't had this kind of problem in the past - most of the damage came from the winds that hit just as high tide came in and that's why there's salt water in everything. But if it's global warming that's responsible, we'll probably have more situations like this. It means changes to building codes, back up plans, etc.

Reply by outthere, Oct 31, 2012.

In other words, don't count on dinner.

Reply by GregT, Oct 31, 2012.

Don't know but yeah, that's possible. And obviously check with the restaurant first - they may not even be open. They probably will be but many of the downtown places and the Brooklyn places are closed. All the Starbucks in Bkn are closed until further notice!

Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 31, 2012.

I tried to call the restaurant yesterday and the phone just rang, no answer.  This was 4:30 p.m. your time, and they are open at that hour. 

To put things in perspective, my mother in law lives on Long Island.  Until about noon yesterday our time (3 her time) we had no idea if she was okay.  We couldn't call or email because all electricity and phone service, even cell, is down in her area.  Luckily my wife's cousin, who has a place on the Upper West Side, was in town and he and his jeep were fine, so he drove out and checked on her. 

MReff is coming from Westchester, Manny is in Jersey, GregT might not be able to get over from Brooklyn, and I'm not sure how JD is getting there, but Amtrak from Rhode Island looks unlikely.  Ouch.

Reply by JonDerry, Oct 31, 2012.

Crazy stuff...from a convenience and infrastructure standpoint, could definitely see how this is much worth than September 11th. Emotionally, I think the healing will be more of a logical progression with a natural disaster like this.

Our NY Rep just called and she's fine. Her office is on the Upper East Side, unharmed, she's at work but her employees are staying home. She's encouraging me to bring product on the plane!  I made noises about transportation and she said to just call for curb service, "it'll be backed up, but it's still way better than the cabs"

Reply by Mike Madaio, Oct 31, 2012.

This is looking more and more likely that I won't be able to make it either. I was planning to stay in Brooklyn but now it seems that transportation to and from will be a disaster at best.

At this point maybe it'd be best to reschedule? Maybe for an off weekend this winter when hotels will be dirt cheap?

Reply by MReff, Oct 31, 2012.

Limited metro north service just stated.  Not sure about Friday, but not my call to cancel..


Paging Greg Del....

Reply by JonDerry, Oct 31, 2012.

Sounds like it may be a game-time decision for many, though from GdP's post on Monday it didn't sound like he had much quit in him. 

I just checked and my flights are still on track, though not sure how transportation's gonna be come friday morning. I get in at 5am so maybe I'll beat the rush up town.

Reply by GregT, Oct 31, 2012.

At the end of the day I can say yesterday it took me about 15 minutes to get to work by driving.  It took me nearly 3 hours to drive to work today. It's only about 4-5 miles. I expect tomorrow will be the same - with more people on the streets in cars, traffic is deadly.

The subways will be running tomorrow but not between Brooklyn and Manhattan and not below 42d Street in Manhattan. That service isn't expected to start for a while - tunnels are still full of water so they're unlikely to be clean by Friday. However, a taxi ride over the bridge, from people who took them today, will likely take a few hours.

I'm sure there was no damage to the restaurant but the employees may have been evacuated from their houses elsewhere or maybe they couldn't get to work. People who have been evacuated are going to be hard at work cleaning up the mess in their homes when they get to return and if any of the employees lived in Chinatown or Brooklyn, they're not likely to be in today or tomorrow. By Friday maybe. 

In south Brooklyn they actually had fires that destroyed about 100 houses. In a hurricane. I really feel for those people.

If I can get in, I'd still like to do it but it will have to be by cab if that's possible and I have to be honest - I'm not going to do a 3 hour trip in standstill traffic each way. 


Reply by napagirl68, Oct 31, 2012.

GregT, GdP, MReff and everyone else impacted by Sandy,  I am glad to hear from those here on snooth that they are ok, and  I hope others that I haven't mentioned/seen on forum are ok like, Eric G.   I am saddened to see the horrendous extent of damage to your cities... I think many thought it wouldn't be so bad.  I hope your cities can recover soon, and I am sorry to hear that you may have to postpone your gathering.  

gregT...   3 hr standstill traffic?  I'd stay home too...



Reply by GregT, Nov 1, 2012.

NG - problem is that there are no traffic lights in S Manhattan. Add to that the fact that people who would take subways are driving and since the tunnels are closed, they're taking the bridges. So you have extra traffic with fewer entrance points and quasi-chaos once you get in. If you're in a taxi and the meter's cranking, your blood pressure is rising too. And if you're driving, the blood pressure is off the charts. But who knows. We have 2 days.

Reply by GregT, Nov 1, 2012.

Minimum of 3 people in a car to use the bridges as the tunnels remain closed. They're counting.

There are also some express busses from Bkn to Penn Station, but with a thousand people waiting. Not sure how long they run at night. Will find out. Maybe this isn't impossible.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Nov 1, 2012.

I'm going to be here tomorrow, so if people are up for it and the restaurant is open, we can go ahead. In light of circumstances canceling it would not be a rash decisions either.  


Who is still planning on being there?

Reply by Eric Guido, Nov 1, 2012.

Sorry to say that I'm not going to be able to make it.  I'm having a lot of staffing issues and getting people in and out of the city has been rough. My current schedule depends on too many variables.  Thanks Greg, i hope you guys have a good time.

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 1, 2012.

Looks like I'll still be in town...if transportation isn't too much of an issue tomorrow night, GregT and I can probably make it over.

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 1, 2012.

Called the Peking Duck House - The downtown location doesn't have power, but the one in upper mid-town is open 

236 East 53rd Street
Manhattan, NY
(212) 759-8260
Reply by GregT, Nov 1, 2012.

Jon - are you actually staying in Brooklyn? 

Reply by JonDerry, Nov 1, 2012.

Actually, my hotel didn't go I'll probably just cab it back to the airport at the end of the night in the wee hours. I'm flying out of LGA at 6am saturday.

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