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Snooth User: Stephen Harvey

Wine Tasting with my Team

Posted by Stephen Harvey, Jun 23, 2017.

DOing a tasting tonight

04 Janz Sparkling - Tasmania

05 E&E Sparkling SHiraz

08 Mesh Riesling Clare/Eden Valley Blend [half Grosset half Yalumba hence Mesh]

08 O'Leary Walker Polish Hill Riesling Clare

16 Orlando ST Helga Riesling Eden Valley

05 Zeghesio Zinfandel

02 Yalumba Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz Blend

05 McWilliams 1877 Cabernet Sauvignon/Shiraz Blend

11 Heggies Botrytis Riesling



Reply by dmcker, Jun 23, 2017.

Looking forward to hearing how you and your team like those bottles. Pretty decent age on them, too. Did you source them all yourself?

Reply by rckr1951, Jun 23, 2017.

Echo those thoughts Stephen.

Reply by Stephen Harvey, Jun 27, 2017.

Tasting was great - they were wines leftover from various events 

The 04 Janz drank very well - not quite Vintage French but at about AUD30-35 pretty good value needed some nice natural Oysters with Lemon/Lime

05 E&E Sparkling Shiraz, - I am not a sparkling red fan but this one is very good and has a good shiraz flavour of blackberries, never sure what to eat with it

The Rieslings

The 16 St Helga is such  a good wine AUD15 never lets yuo down and was crisp fresh with nice citrus notes, acid backbone very good 

The 08 O'Leary Walker was a bueatiful aged riesling and at 9 years showed just how good riesling ages

The 08 Mesh and correction all Eden Valley - was a step up from the OW just showing very good aged riesling flvour but under screw cap still retains a nice freshness and off course no TCA

Now the Zin - I am not very good with Zin having drank very little, my impression was that at 12 years old it was just past its best and was a fraction flat  - it had been stored in Yalma's cellars who are the importer - would be keen on your views on ageing capacity of Zin

The Yalumba Reserve was very good it is a AUD100 wine so it needed to deliver 02 was a very mild vintage year and true to most 02's it was elegant and still showed some very nice blackberry fruit but also starting to give some nice secondary flavours, should have at least another 5 years

The McWilliams was also very good not far off the Yalumba 

The Heggies was a nice easy to drink sticky - certainly not a complex sauterne style but fresh and not excessive on sugar

Overall a good solid tasting and keeps my mission of converting SB drinkers to riesling

Reply by dmcker, Jun 27, 2017.

How'd the team like them, and what are your aims for such exercises with the team?

Reply by outthere, Jun 28, 2017.

Zinfandel is hit and miss depending on the winemaking style. Storage plays the biggest role in their ageability in my experience. I've recently had 80s vintage Zins that have been fresh and alive while some 2000s vintages hve been dead. Seghesios, like most Zinfandels for the most part, are built for early enjoyment and they use lots of American oak. Although there is something special about finding that well preserved gem that makes the journey worth it.

Reply by Stephen Harvey, Jun 28, 2017.

D - the team were quite open to the aged rieslings

the main aim is expose milleniels to as much variety as possible

We did a quick options game for some fun

I usually try to give a bit of food matching commentary

But in the end just a chance to give them some wine experience they may not otherwise get

OT - pretty much the same with many reds, will try a couple more Zins aas I see them around

Reply by outthere, Jun 29, 2017.

California Zins that age well. Short list:

  • Ravenswood SVDs
  • Ridge
  • Joseph Swan
  • Nalle
  • Talty
  • Limerick Lane
  • Scherrer
  • Carlisle
  • Turley - Ueberroth and Pesenti
Reply by Stephen Harvey, Jun 29, 2017.

Interesting article in my online wine mag today - must have been reading my notes on Snooth

Reply by GregT, Jun 29, 2017.

Interesting thing about Zin, at least to me, is that people always talk about this or that grape showing terroir, but it's hard to think of another grape that does so as clearly as Zin does. Cab is always Cab, Pinot Noir is always Pinot Noir, Riesling is always Riesling, but Zin can be pretty much anything. And Syrah is a close second.

I'm sure there are other grapes like that, but of the dominant ones in the US at least, those two seem the most affected by location.

Reply by Really Big Al, Jun 29, 2017.

Nice lineup Stephen.  I would have enjoyed that tasting experience.

As for Pinot Noir, I think the Oregon and California vineyards reflect quite a different taste.  Sure, you still know they are Pinot Noir, but I sure prefer the Oregon (as in Burgundy) blending style.

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