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Wine pairing with Indian?
Posted by ruobingchen, Aug 12.

Hello,

Just wondering what everyone thinks is the best varietal that goes with Indian foods (curry, etc.)? Any specific recommendations? Thank you!

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Reply by GregT, Aug 13.

I've done a little experimenting with that because I want to sell some wine over there. So we convened a few focus groups, they cooked dinner and we supplied the wine.

Obviously there is tremendous variety in India as the cuisine varies depending on the region and sometimes religion. So it depends on what kind of curry you are talking about because there are many. In any event, the consensus seemed to be that reds as a general rule don't seem to work really well.

If you've got a dish that's got really complex spices, or chiles, or coconut, or yogurt, or ground almonds, or all of them, you have so much complexity already that adding complex reds is counterproductive. The reds that worked best were the simplest and those with little or no oak. And that actually bears out the old rule of thumb to pair complex wines with simple food and simple wines with complex food.

White wines as a rule seemed to work better. But there was a difference in the results between the Indian and the non-Indian tasters. Non-Indian tasters were looking for pairings and matches. Some of the wines that worked were off-dry rieslings for example. Or some of the floral and peach scented wines like Torrontes and Malvasia, especially if there was a hint of residual sugar. Personally, I like a touch of sweetness if I have something that's really hot and spicy. And given that the wines were cooler, they acted a little like raita. Gwertz might work, but for me a little goes a long way. People always want to pair that with anything from Asia but I don't think that's necessarily a great idea as sometimes those floral notes end up tasting like soap.

It's not part of the Indian culture to pair wine with food, so their use of wine is a little bit different from what you'd find in France or Italy or Spain, or even the US, which has modeled it's wine habits on the Europeans. I'm absolutely under no circumstances any kind of expert on this issue, but what I was told was that they'd prefer to drink, then eat, then drink something stronger. That's just fine as far as I'm concerned, but it's kind of like the US in the 1980s, where chardonnay became an apertif for women in fern bars, rather than something to enjoy with food.

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Reply by Jimmy Cocktail, Aug 13.

Not much to add here other than to echo Greg's sentiment that for something very hot and spicy I like something with a touch of residual sugar as a balance. Riesling and Viognier come to mind but others work as well. For blander dishes such and cocunut milk based curries that aren't hot or vegetable dishes like saag or mutter paneer something dryer can work but stay away from the heavy oak. And yes, the whites tend to work much better than the reds.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Aug 13.

Greg T gives an excellent run down, I'd just add that some softer, slightly fruitier sparkling wines like Prosecco for example, can often be successful with intensely seasoned and spicy dishes.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 13.

Interesting info, GregT. What was the response of the South Asian members of the focus groups vs. the others? And how are your plans for selling in India and Sri Lanka progressing? I assume Pakistan is more problematic, though the Maldives might be an interesting, if smaller, market, even though Muslim.

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Reply by Charles Emilio, Aug 13.

I find that cold lambrusco goes really well with Indian Food. My wife says I'm crazy but it works for me.


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Reply by HondaJohn, Aug 13.

For me ... a slightly sweet Riesling works well 'cept when I over do it. Then the curry requires a fire extinguisher.

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Reply by GregT, Aug 14.

Forgot about the sparkling wines. They were appreciated too. We tried a wide variety of reds - malbec, garnacha, cab franc, bonarda, cab sauv. No love for cab franc. Ripe and oaky with a bit of spice seemed to be more popular and oddly there was an appreciation of alcohol. It's something I didn't know but the consensus was that if there was more alcohol, people felt they were getting a better deal, or at least were getting their money's worth. Never would have occurred to me to think of it that way.

dmcker - the plan at the moment is only India. It's really hard to sell in some of those places unless you have some connections that are pretty good.

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Reply by dmcker, Aug 14.

Ever had Indian whisky? Emphasis on alcohol impact there. Except for exceptions like foreign tourist destinations, places with particular histories like Goa, etc., I've seen mostly beer and whisky (and a few other variations) in my travels through the subcontinent over the past two to three decades. India is a very different place now, though, changing quite rapidly this decade, so wine offers different opportunities than the past. And the market's potentially as large as China, one would think, considering the particular history of India and environs, even though China does have more cool-weather geography.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Aug 14.

I think Lambrusco is a great call. It goes with almost anything!

Seriously I love Lambrusco and find it to be a wonderful food wine that works well for challenging matches yet is brilliant with an antipasto picnic on a warm summers eve. Now I'm making myself hungry and it's 9 am! Back to work.

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Reply by syrahlover, Aug 17.

I am thinking that the Stony Hill Gewurtz or Smith Madrone Riesling would be great.
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