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Snooth User: Charles Emilio

What's wrong with Australian Wine?

Original post by Charles Emilio, Jul 27, 2009.

Hi Everybody, this is my first post on here so go easy on me. Great forum BTW

I would like to know peoples reasons on why they dislike Australian wine.
At present I can see a collective conscience gathering rapidly where it has almost become trendy to bash Australian wine with the most common cliche being that they are "Alcoholic Fruit Bombs".

thanks for your responses

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Reply by penguinoid, Apr 30, 2010.

I've not really got to try any decent Hunter Valley Sémillons at all, possibly because most of the good ones need some bottle age to be approachable. I've come to like Barossa Sémillons though - rich, honey and lanolin-dominated.

Australia does make more than it's fair share of simplistic fruit bombs, but that's not all it can do. Even warm regions like the Barossa are capable of producing more complex, terroir driven wines. The trick is knowing which producers are worth looking out for. With regards to the Barossa, I think I've mentioned Shobbrook Wines before as being good, and I think they export a small amount to the UK too.

On that note, I guess your best way to find decent Australian (and other "new world") wines would be to wait until you next visit the UK. You might get some odd looks buying up wine in the UK to take back to France, though -- most people do this the other way round ;-)

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Reply by Cathy Shore, Apr 30, 2010.

That is exactly what we do - although not for a while.  We brought back about 15 cases of New World wine back from the UK and yes, the French thought we were mad! 

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Reply by penguinoid, Apr 30, 2010.

Yes, I can imagine that would cause some raised eyebrows and general confusion.

Offtopic, but out of interest are other "old world" wines (e.g., Spain, Italy, Germany) more easily available in France than "new world" ones?

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Reply by Cathy Shore, Apr 30, 2010.

Other old world wines of decent quality are just as hard to find around us.  So, good Italian, decent Mosel, good Navarra, Ribera del Duero, Austrian Gruner, Tokaji, to name but a few are impossible to find.  Locals assume that we miss New World wines but in fact what we miss is CHOICE!!!!! Ah for a decent, fresh dry Manzanilla...

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Reply by penguinoid, Apr 30, 2010.

I guessed that might be the case. It seems almost a rule of thumb that in wine producing countries, whilst you have a large choice of local wines including ones that don't get exported, the choice of imported wines is more limited.

This is the case in Australia, to a certain extent -- you can get a reasonable range of imported wines, but there are large, glaring gaps and often a limited selection of producers. On the other hand, you get wines from interesting small producers that you probably can't easily get in other markets...

The US seems (mostly) to be an exception to this rule, from what I'v read.

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Reply by zufrieden, May 2, 2010.

OK,so let us get back to Pinot Noir: any comments on Tasmania?  I have, but I am waiting for some comments from those of you with more "on site" experience.  One hint: Tasmanian Pinots show great promise.

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Reply by penguinoid, May 4, 2010.

Yes, it's another region I've heard a lot about too. I've tried it twice -- once was well over a year ago, and I don't think I have any notes. More recently, I tried the 2006 Stefano Lubiana Estate Pinot Noir at a tasting, and was impressed. I think I'd need to try more than just one though to get a feel for what they're producing at the moment.

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