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Snooth User: outthere

Whatcha drinking tonight?

Original post by outthere, Jun 11, 2012.

The title is self-explanatory. What are you enjoying this evening? Or not?

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Reply by napagirl68, Jul 16, 2014.

No need to apologize OT!!   I was just so pissed off with this wine.  My husband told me to add that it tastes like some strange Midori/ Ouzo drink.   Blehhh!!

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 17, 2014.

NG, sounds like your friend lost their wine-rec privileges.   

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 18, 2014.

I know this is supposed to be a family forum, but this happened last night. First Salon, DRC, and first look at 2010 Barolo for me.

'97 Salon: This was very good, in its drinking window. Open and rather gentle, it's more of a soft, elegant beauty with some citrus popping out. Showed good energy and persistence on the finish, suggesting it should drink well over the next several years before flattening out.

2010 Burlotto Monvigliero: The plan was to decant this 24 hours, but I couldn't find another bottle to open after the Champagne so I reached for this, after about a 30-40 minute decant. Expressive nose of strawberries, stems, and rubber. Flavors repeat on the palate, which is very light on its feet, elegant and wiry. The fruit is very fresh, barely ripe, though the acidity isnt quite overwhelming. Shows good spice and fine tannin on the back. The finish has good power, showing this wines great potential. Surprised at how well it's drinking already, showing a balance of feminine and masculine.

1985 DRC Romanee St. Vivant: There was about a half hour intermission between the Barolo and the DRC, as we drove to dinner. It was interesting to see the similarities between the Barolo and this Burgundy...with very fresh Strawberry fruit, the fine, woven tannins put this in a different class for the 10-15 minutes it performed in the glass. Of course, it continued to be enjoyable as it faded, later showing some sweet, cherry in alcohol flavors. 

Reply by EMark, Jul 18, 2014.

Very nice Jon.

I'm not a big fan of Malbec.  I guess a more accurate way of saying that is that I have really very little experience with Malbec.  So, as much as anything tonight is a continuing education project.


I was originally attracted to the Mauritson winery because Foxall bragged about their Zinfandel, and I am, of course, this board's biggest sucker for Zinfandels.  Well, it seems that Mauritson at least dabbles in just about any grape--not unlike many California wineries.  My experience is that Mauritson does a good job on anything they try.  

Back to the Malbec.   After an initial taste, I don't think this one is going to win any fans.  It's a reasonalbly functional wine, but it doesn't seem to have much focus--cherry flavor/caramel flavor/anise flavor, a serious blast of drying tannin.  It has been several hours since I've eaten anything.  Maybe with some solid food (leftovers from last night's Hollywood Bowl adventure reported in Big Al's weekday wines thread) it will evolve.



Reply by Really Big Al, Jul 18, 2014.

Malbec is an acquired taste.  When you get bored with Cabernet Sauvignon, come to Malbec and you will be happy once again.

(c) 2014 Big Al Quotations and Annotations

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 18, 2014.

Getting a chemistry style decant going for this 2007 Giuseppe Mascarello M-P tonight...

Reply by outthere, Jul 19, 2014.

Dude, nice lineup Thursday. I missed that one.

Tonight we dined with Mr and Mrs LuchaVino and fully enjoyed a 2010 Rivers Marie B.Theiriot Chardonnay and a 2012 Wilde Farm Donnelley Creek Pinot Noir not to mention great company and wonderful food. Great precursor to what should be a fun evening tomorrow! Sorry, no pics as I left the phone at home.

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 19, 2014.

Yeah, was a pretty epic week so far...

The Giuseppe Mascarello really disappointed me...craving white wine so ordered this CdN white burg at dinner which really hit the spot.

Reply by vin0vin0, Jul 19, 2014.

Today was a good day. Cool, overcast and drizzly so we cleaned out our clothes closet in prep for the master bath remodel that's happening Monday. Later we met some of our BFF's and planned our next Russian River trip together in November over a bottle of Ken Wright Pinot. Now I'm grilling some eggplant and red onion to go with our fresh picked tomatoes, feta and roasted red peppers, oh, and sipping this - live is good in our 'hood.

Reply by outthere, Jul 20, 2014.

A couple Syrahs and a couple other bottles ;) there are a few MIA's as well.

Reply by Really Big Al, Jul 20, 2014.

Nice selection.  I bet I could find one I liked.... :-)

Reply by EMark, Jul 20, 2014.

When you get bored with Cabernet Sauvignon. . . .


Oh, I get it.  Humor.  Good one Al.


Pretty amazing, OT.  I'm going to move over to the other thread to see more.

Reply by outthere, Jul 20, 2014.

Found these on ice. Total bottle count is at 52!

Reply by outthere, Jul 20, 2014.

My liver was still functioning today so I did the Halcón vertical/horizontal again this evening.


Then by chance I grabbed the mag of '99 Mayacamas knowing all too well that it would be oxidized after sitting open all night and all day today. Last night it was dreamy. Tonight it still has it going on! Light oxidation but nice stone fruit and citrus. Still holding its acidity too. Whoever didn't try this last night missed out.

Next up the remainder of JDs Meursault Charmes! Wow, this is lovely. Great citrusy lemon zest nose, creamy full palate, acid comes in late and gives it great length.

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 20, 2014.

Glad their was some Charmes left, it wasn't as appreciated as much yesterday, probably because it was drunk as a cocktail wine.

Reply by outthere, Jul 20, 2014.
Home already? Non-stop? You made good time.
All these wines sat open all night and all day today. 
'08 Copain - Hint of TCA not noticeable last night, blueberry and wet stones. Juicy, red/blue fruit, round but lean. Chalky finish.
'09 Copain - Burnt rubber and tar. Rich black and blue palate with iron, river rocks and firm tannins.
'10 Copain - Lovely nose, ripe tart red fruit lots of acidity, grippy finish. Can sit in the cellar for a while.
'11 Copain - Yeasty bread dough, ripe black and blue fruit, firm texture, juicy, chalky tannins.
I think the '10 showed best but the air time needs to be taken into consideration. The '09 was double decanted Saturday morning.
'09 Alturas - Hint of reduction, black fruit, blackberry and crushed stone in the mouth, firm tannins, lots of sediment.
'10 Alturas - Stems? Nose was a touch green and savory. Sweet ripe fruit, round mouth, nice acidity, powdery tannins.
'11 Alturas - Lean fruit nose. White pepper, black fruit, deep dark color, great balance. Powdery mouth drying tannins.
'12 Alturas - Riper more savory nose than the '11. Juicy blue fruit, iron, great acidity, grippy finish, winner!
'13 Alturas barrel sample - Stuffed, red and blue fruit, structured. A lot going on and obviously will change before bottling. Will be fun to follow. Early look is extremely promising. Thanks Paul for the generous additions to the evening!
The '12 was my favorite but the '13 will likely eclipse it.
Reply by Diego Andrés Díaz, Jul 20, 2014.

Tonight I am having a disappointing  experience with this wine. Morandé Late Harvest Sauvignon Blanc 2009.

So far, I have love every Late Harvest wine that I have tasted, but this wine has a strong smell, quite alcoholic, although it has only 13.5 ABV. In the mouth is sweet and heavy, and the aftertaste is long and very tart. 

There's something unusual ( I don't dare to say wrong) in this wine, starting with the color.

It's too orange!! Is It normal??

Reply by JonDerry, Jul 21, 2014.

Brian, we touched home just before 8:30, early enough to put the little one to bed.

Thanks again for hosting and having us, cool that you were able to re-do the Halcon vertical. Both Alan and I were especially fond of the 2012, though I may be biased as I got "the numbers" from Paul and '12 has more natural acidity/slightly lower alcohol than '13 (13.5 v 13.8).

Reply by outthere, Jul 21, 2014.

Diego, the color would be fine if it were 10-20 years in bottle. At 5 and being that dark I suspect heat damage/spoilage Was the nose like fingernail polish? Ethyl acetate will up that aroma while leaving the palate sweet and a tart.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Jul 21, 2014.

Sorry about the Monprivato, but two things to note:  '07 wasn't a great year, by any stretch.  And this isn't the time to drink that wine.  You could drink it really young and it would be tasty, but unremarkable.  But seven years isn't an aged Barolo.  It may well have shut down.  Drinking window is still three years away if you believe in all that.  Keep in mind that is the beginning of the drinking window. If you really want to know what a great wine it can be, you need to find someone with well stored older bottles.  Like GdP.

Okay, we drank a bottle of DVogler's Hendry Red and then he opened the bottle of BC wine that he gave me--my gift almost disappeared before I got any!  But since I enjoyed some of his wine we can still be friends.  We also drank a too-sweet Vinho Verde that I overpaid for (still pretty cheap). 

Tonight I will probably drink some Zin or maybe some Pinot, now that I have the Pinot haters out of the house.  Chianti might also happen.

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