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Snooth User: outthere

Whatcha drinking tonight?

Original post by outthere, Jun 11, 2012.

The title is self-explanatory. What are you enjoying this evening? Or not?

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Reply by outthere, Apr 15, 2013.

Go JD!

We've had wine with dinner every night for the past 2-1/2 months. Taking a break tonight.


Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 16, 2013.

Yes, even OT's liver needs a break now and again.

But someone's gotta keep those boutique California vintners in business.

That would be "Fatto a Mano" 2009 Carignan.  This winery claims to make Italian varietal wines, but Carignan is associated with Spain (Carinena, where it gets its name) and France.  Still, the Italian immigrants in Sonoma county planted it alongside their Zinfandel and Petite Sirah--which is also not Italian--and this comes from that part of California.

This was like a really good Sangio based wine, I thought, but a little rounder.  Lots of nice acids with our lasagna and eggplant parm.  Really delicious stuff--so skip your next so-so cab or flabby merlot and try something new!

Reply by EMark, Apr 16, 2013.

Very much looking forward to Jon's report.  It sure sounds outstanding.

A few posts ago I pretty much admitted that I can be easily influenced in my purchases.  This is another one:


I was at the Wine Club in Santa Ana a few weeks ago and saw this wine.  I had never heard of Regusci (just like when I bought the Livingston Moffett I'd never heard of them), and bought it soley on the basis if the shelf talker which said:

     Does not need 5 years of aging or 2 hours of decanting.

Well, that caused a chuckle and into the cart it went.  I hope it doesn't mean that this wine is beyond hope.  I think I'm going to try it, tonight.

Reply by grkwine, Apr 16, 2013.

Tonight, I think I'm going to try a Greek White Blend Wine that is a blend of Malagouzia and Trebiano. It is called Charisma by Avantis Winery in Evvia Greece.. it is yummy!!!


Reply by duncan 906, Apr 16, 2013.

I am drinking a lovely old bottle of sweet white wine that I started two days ago with a plate of bread and cheese and there is about one glass left.It is a 1973 Chateau La Rame from the St Croix du Mont appellation just the other side of the River Garonne from the more prestigious and more expensive Sauternes appellation.If you go to you will see a picture of the very bottle

Reply by outthere, Apr 16, 2013.

Me too. Took a flyer on a 6 pack of I Veroni Vin Santo del Chianti Rufina from LastBottleWines. A Trebbiano Malvasia blend dessert wine.

New cat for me. Nose is all butterscotch with a touch of nail polish. Big, sweet butterscotch palate. First try was at room temp. Have the remainder of the bottle in the fridge to give it a chill before I do another pour. Back label states "Dry Red Wine", that's rich! 16%ABV 

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 16, 2013.

OT, I saw that bottle (or those bottles) on LB and was kinda intrigued.  Love the OWC.  We just snagged a six pack of that CdR they were offering at $9 or so.  I'm not wholly convinced that they really "sell out" each offer, but I see a lot of stuff that intrigues me and is at really good prices.  I've seen some WTSO customers who had concerns about how the wine was stored, but neither LB nor BPW have shipped me anything that was compromised in any way.  (My own experience with WTSO has been positive, too, I should note, but shipping from NJ as opposed to Napa gives me more pause.)

Might be an AFD because Tuesdays usually involve my wife taking three girls to a taqueria and bringing me take-out after.  A good excuse to take a break.

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 16, 2013.

Last night was indeed a hedonistic delight. Started off with a little bit of '09 Schramsberg Blanc de Blancs. Probably not aged enough, and I'm so used to this wine but it was still a fair way to start.

The '05 Cos was next, and reminded me of the '05 Leoville Poyferre I liked so much (except this is double the price). Ripe, but fresh red fruits, smoke, and mild spice and soil. Persistent finish, but I wouldn't say powerful. This came up slightly short of my high expectations (and the scores), but it's likely that this wine could use more time. Ultimately there's some mystery here, while all of the other wines of the night showed who snd what they were, it felt like this held something back. It was also the most elegant, food friendly wine of the flight.

'03 Angelus: This raised the stakes a bit, as the flavors were more concentrated and it was simply sweeter than the Cos. It really coated the mouth and reminded one of well done Napa wine, but still keeping its right bank identity. Not over the top, but measured hedonism, which is what I love from the right bank. It had been a while since I've had this nice of a right banker, so it was nice to be reminded after a few disappointments inbetween. Full finish here, with well integrated oak.

'08 Shafer Hillside Select: Too much candied sweetness, and not much of a classy, balanced wine like the Bordeaux. A major disappointment that I had feared. Despite the high critical acclaim and community scores, this is simply a wine that doesn't excite my palate anymore. It's definitely made for cocktails (to drink by itself), and not with food. Though the vanilla impressions from the oak were loud on the back end, it settled down with some air. I'll keep my other bottle for a while and not expect much.

1985 d'Yquem: I called for after dinner drinks when getting back home, and this was a perfect way to end things. I kept the bottle in the fridge for as long as I could and had a good time managing everyone's pours. This was not a blockbuster wine, but very well made, balanced towards the sweet side of course, but with enough freshness to hold itself well. Those apricot and honey flavors are really a thing of beauty. Really lovely stuff.

I should say this was a dinner of two families who've known each other for the better part of two decades. We always have a good time, but this was one for the books.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 20, 2013.

Friday and that means rotisserie chicken from our Showtime Jr. (don't laugh, best chicken you have ever had unless you have Senegalese friends) and usually Pinot.  Didn't want another Gary Farrell or Vine HIll and wasn't quite up to splurging and opening a Roar, and then I remembered that I had this bottle:

I was warned by the bottler that it might not have the same stabilizing level of SO2 as the machine bottled version.  Yes, OT bottled this for me (and one for JonDerry) last year.  How was it? Umm, it's empty, that's how it was.  Needed a little more chill than the basement left it with, so I stuck a VacuVin chilling jacket on it, and it was delicious.  I might have to buy a few of these and see how much better they get with time.

Reply by napagirl68, Apr 20, 2013.


Your choice reminded me of my experience almost 3yrs ago at Taste of Sonoma where I discovered Gracianna's Pinot Noir.   Yes, OT's extended family...  Ashley's a doll- have talked with her, and love their story and their amazing wine.

Here is the fun link back to that time...

Reply by outthere, Apr 20, 2013.

Pre-release still! Glad you liked it, I'll have to dig one out and see what it's doing. '11 was a rough vintage for the farmers.

I spent my Wednesday afternoon at Las Madres Vineyard attending their annual Winemakers Lunch where we tasted '12 barrel samples and back vintages of their cool climate Syrah. I'll post a report later this weekend. Today we have a 420 House Warming/Birthday Party to attend at a winemaker friends home in St Helena.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 20, 2013.

What is this 420 you speak of? ;-)

Reply by outthere, Apr 21, 2013.

Its a members only club! Actually it is the hosts birthday so they made it a 4/20 @ 4:20 Party. No stinky green stuff though.

Here's a twist on Wine Country Catering, a Taco Truck!

Some of the highlights: 

Lots of beer and mixed cocktails including this sour beer from San Diego

750's of

Magnums of


A 3L of

Which paired fairly well with our burritos! Never in a million years would I ever have expected to drink a Giacosa with taco truck food. I would have asked "What are you smoking?"


Reply by JonDerry, Apr 21, 2013.

Sweet, sounds like we both had an epic 4/20

Reply by rwbrostrom, Apr 21, 2013.

Filet with Lenwood Hills Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir, 2011 from Southern Australia.


Reply by JenniferT, Apr 21, 2013.

An interesting new white Italian for me!

A 2009 Arenis varietal wine from Roero, Italy from Giovanni Almondo - the grapes come from the Bricco del Ciliegie vineyard. Apparently this is an intense, full bodied white that combines fresh fruit without the familiar oak that you'd often get in chardonnay. My understanding is that it is a wine that kind of bridges red wine and easy drinking crisp whites. :)

Reply by outthere, Apr 22, 2013.

The butterfly says it's 90 degrees!


90 degrees on April 22nd? Yep. Time for something suitable!

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 22, 2013.

I was trying to find a chilled Tavel, but finished an open bottle of Priorat when I couldn't locate one. 

91 degrees F in Santa Rosa today--new record, OT.

Reply by outthere, Apr 23, 2013.

Tacos, Chicken not Duck, and an '09 Gary Farrell Ramal Pinot

hopefully my picture isn't sideways.

Reply by EMark, Apr 23, 2013.

Going old world, tonight.


with grilled chicken.

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