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Snooth User: outthere

Whatcha drinking tonight?

Original post by outthere, Jun 11, 2012.

There hasn't been one of these threads here in quite some time so I thought I'd start it up again. Weather is warm here so I popped a Rosé.

What are you drinking?

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Reply by outthere, Jun 14, 2012.

I may not live that long. Who knows. This is a Villages wine that is showing nicely. 1er and Grand Cru definitely need the time. Having a moderately California Sonoma Coast palate this fit great with me right now.

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 14, 2012.

I don't mind drinking Burgs early, in fact I just started drinking them recently so it's all a learning experience. As I mentioned to everyone last night, my palate is moving towards Bordeaux and Burgundy more and more these days. 

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Reply by EMark, Jun 14, 2012.

Leftovers from last night.  :-)

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Reply by outthere, Jun 14, 2012.

Gracianna winemakers dinner tonight at John Ash & Co.

  • 2010 and 2011 Suzanne's Blend Chardonnay
  • 2008, '09 & '10 Bacigalupi Pinot Noir
  • 2009 and 2010 Bacigalupi Zinfandel

Can't wait!

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Reply by jtryka, Jun 14, 2012.

Tonight I am enjoying some 2008 L'Ecole Seven Hill Estate Merlot!

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 14, 2012.

outthere, have always enjoyed my meals and drinks at John Ash.  So what's the food?

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Reply by outthere, Jun 15, 2012.
  1. Grilled Apricot wrapped in Prosciutto
  2. Warm Pt Reyes Toma Cheese on Sourdough Croûte w/ Balsamic Jelly both paired with 11 Chard
  3. Butter Briased Lobster w/ Fava Bean Purée, Watercress Leaves, Grilled Asparagus and Meyer Lemon Olive Oil Paired with 10 Chard
  4. Gourmet Mushroom Herb Polenta w/ Dry Vella Jack and Saba Paired with 09 Pinot
  5. Crispy Pheasant Confit w/Braised Apples, Roasted Garlic and Pheasant Jus Paired with 08 and 10 Pinot
  6. Buffalo Short Ribs w/ Red Currants, Brussels Sprouts Leaves, Dates and Sour Cream Whipped Potatoes Paired with 08 and 09 Zin
  7. Assorted Petit Fours

It was incredible! Probably the best meal I have had at John Ash. Chef Tom nailed it.

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Reply by zufrieden, Jun 16, 2012.

Some of you, I hope, are moving toward the products of the France because you are learning what wine is supposed to taste like - at least in the era 30 AP (After Parker and the 1982 vintage).  I am a bit of a lover of things French so am not particularly objective on this topic I'm afraid.

But moving right along, I had been unable to keep my paws off the 2005 Bourgogne until recently, and l have but 10 bottles left from this astoundingly good vintage - though no more Vosne-Romanee, I'm afraid - mostly Pommard, Volnay and sundry. Lately though, I have been trying to support the local wine trade and endeavoring (somewhat in vain, but one must learn patience where that virtue has the intended effect) to get the BC winemakers to move toward a certain style you might find in a good Hermitage Blanc.  I am trying a second bottle of Moon Curser "Afraid of the Dark" - a delicious blend of Viognier, Marsanne and Roussanne from Oliver BC just over the border from Washington State. Although this wine could make do with less Viognier (always a flowery crowd-pleaser), it is a very nice tipple indeed. I will likely switch back to a CdP or Hermitage Blanc for comparative purposes - provided the wine is not bloated with Grenache Blanc or Bourboulenc.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 18, 2012.

I've got a bottle of 2005 Vincent Girardin Vosnes-Romanee Vielles Vignes that I'm fighting to keep from opening.  Maybe at Duck Taco night, if OT and NapaGirl make it down... (now that's a teaser).  Of maybe I'll just serve them something in a bag and make them guess what it is.

Off the drinking topic and on that meal at John Ash, OT, I have to say that Polenta with that Dry Jack cheese stirred into it is iconic.  I was just telling my wife that I needed that very cheese to stir in when I last was making polenta.  When I was a vegetarian living in NY, I used to get the mushroom polenta at 44 restaurant at the Royalton, then I started making it myself.  It's a classic, and with those pinots? Man... The shortribs (buffalo is way underrated) with the Zin sounds insane, too. The whole meal sounds incredible.

For Father's day, we had my dad, mom, sister, niece, nephew and his g/f over. My wife made appetizers--a shrimp with tomatoes, capers, feta, ouzo (which wouldn't light--too soupy), "spanokopita" (she improvises it but stayed fairly traditional) and flatbreads my neph and his g/f made.  For those courses, we had a muscadet from just outside Sevre et Main (from my NBW stash, thanks to dmcker for that heads-up) that disappeared in a flash, and a Tavel (from D'Aqueria) that went almost as fast.  Bargains both. For the main course of Tri-tip with a cuban marinade (lime, garlic, cumin, some other stuff from my father's day gift the Barbecue! Bible), we blind drank 2006 Talty Estate Zin and 2006 Rockpile Jack's Cabin Zin.  My wife and I could clearly pick them out (my 10 year old now does the decanting and keeps the records) and she preferred the Talty, as always.  I was about even, enjoying both.  Found out my sister and her daughter don't like Zin, but the remaining adults (4 of them) voted for the Mauritson, with one describing the Talty as "shrill." My nephew brought a bottle of NZ SB that was exactly what gooseberry flavored NV SB is all about--great if you like the style.  I'm okay with it, but more of a stony Sancerre fan myself. It went by the wayside, too, thanks to my sis and her daughter, although we all helped a bit. Typical California mediterranean/Latin/anything near the sea mash-up.

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Reply by EMark, Jun 18, 2012.

Well the e-mail from Snooth updated me to a new post here at the "Whatcha Drinkin' Tonight" thread. It looks like there was a grand dinner in Oakland on Fathers Day.  In Diamond Bar on Monday. things were much more modest.  We made sandwiches from leftovers of an asian pork recipe that Peggy tested the other day.  The sandwiches were awesome. 

For my wine I picked the B.C. Nebbiolo from L.A. Cetto upon which Foxall, commented a week or so ago.  I agree that this was a very good wine, and I gave it 3.5 Snooth chalices.  Check it out folks this is a pretty darned good wine.

Question:  In most Nebbiolos that I have tried, and I confess that there have not been that many, I taste raisins--not the fancy ones, the Raisin Maid ones from, presumably, Fresno.  Does anybody else get that?   

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Reply by outthere, Jun 18, 2012.

This is an interesting wine. The color is opaque garnet and light barely passes through the glass. From the sediment on the cork and the cloudiness I would say this is unfiltered. If I had smelled this blind I would have pegged it for a Cabernet due to the heavy cedar aroma which I rarely find in a domestic Pinot. Add some black currant, wet earth and mushrooms and this one defies California PN.  This is a big powerful wine in red fruit, acidity and tannic grip. I tried playing with serving temperature and found the fruit and acid more lively at cellar temp. Once it came to room temp it was a tannic mess. Honestly it has all the parts to age well and needs time to integrate. Not close in style to what I have been drinking lately but I really liked it. 

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Reply by EMark, Jun 18, 2012.

OT, does that say Monterey County on that bottle?  If so, very interesting.  Any more info on where? 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 18, 2012.

EMark, I can see it's from the Michaud Vineyard.  I recall that Michael Michaud worked at Chalone.  The winery is over by Pinnacles.  OT and dmcker have discussed the Taylor in another thread--dmcker was the one who brought it to our attention, I think.

Oz Clarke says that nebbiolo tastes like, among other things, "dried fruit."  Since a raisin is a dried grape, that ought to count.  That tarry essence could also be kind of like a sticky Sun Maid raisin when it's young and the fruit is stronger than the rose-like element.

Tonight we had ravioli, fresh pesto, and the end of our 2004 Poggio Salvi Brunello, which we started a few nights ago. Just got this offer from K&L for the 2006, but since I bagged mine at 15.99, their offer is a little less appealing. Still, that's not going to happen again. Oh, well.

Now, maybe someone can explain all the Aldo Conterno Barolo that's discounted at K&L? Fallout from the Euro crisis?

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Reply by outthere, Jun 18, 2012.

Fox nailed it with Chalone. It would be fun to throw this into a blind tasting.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 18, 2012.

The Chalone connection probably has something to do with D's interest. Here's a nice history of the winemaking and the vineyard. My connection to that area is that my dad worked in Monterey and Salinas about half the year from when I was 7 until I was 9 or 10.  He was selling Cryovac film back then, trying to develop a market beyond frozen turkeys. That's not pertinent to wine, but we took a lot of vacations there--dad would work part of the time, and we'd stay at the motel where he had a room, so the company paid for some of the vacation.  (The WestWind on Casa Munras, with indoor pool--we thought it was the Ritz.) We'd eat at Mary Dracos' Cellar and Mary would call me her bambino. We saw some of the F1 racers who were racing at Laguna Seca there one night. Real Steinbeck atmosphere--Cannery Row was a derelict on its last legs before becoming empty and resurrecting itself so people from Phoenix would feel comfortable there. For all I know, Richard Graff ate there, too--there weren't a ton of restaurants in the area, and Mary was a fixture in the area.  dmcker has more connection to Chalone than I, but my connection to agriculture in Monterey County started early and took root. 

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Reply by rolifingers, Jun 19, 2012.

A nicely chilled Riesling and Brandy afterwards

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Reply by Casey84, Jun 19, 2012.

Nothing special just a Concannon Selected Vineyards 2010 Cabernet

 

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Reply by outthere, Jun 19, 2012.

Finishing off this 2006 JC Cellars Late Harvest Viognier from Lodi that I opened last night.

Zuckerbeg rich, listed RS is 20%! Only 11% ABV. Love the color. Long ass finish.

 

 

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Reply by napagirl68, Jun 20, 2012.
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Reply by outthere, Jun 20, 2012.

Niiiiiiiiiice!

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