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Snooth User: outthere

Whatcha drinking tonight?

Original post by outthere, Jun 11, 2012.

There hasn't been one of these threads here in quite some time so I thought I'd start it up again. Weather is warm here so I popped a Rosé.

What are you drinking?

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Reply by EMark, Oct 3, 2012.

Did we ever get an explanation of those wire nets that you see in Spike's picture?  My previous experience with them had only been with Gran Reserva Riojas, but the above example is from La Mancha.  I recall somebody said, and I have since noticed, that certain offerings from Coppola (California) have them.

Since we had the conversation on the cost of corks, this, clearly, has to be an expense that must be recovered.

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 3, 2012.

Can't see the netting costing much in quantity...my guess would be around $0.15/each on average, maybe less for a bigger bodega like Riscal.

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Reply by spikedc, Oct 3, 2012.

EMARK,  I think this was asked on my Spanish Trip discussion, i think we agreed this might be a plausible version........Gilded wire

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Reply by EMark, Oct 3, 2012.

Thank you, Spike.  I guess I had another senior moment.

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Reply by jtryka, Oct 3, 2012.

'09 Stags Leap Merlot, very yummy!

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 4, 2012.

2010 Tortochot Morey St. Denis

Nice village wine...like the idea of Morey St. Denis (just south of Gevry Chambertin) being a tiny appellation, where maybe there aren't enough poor grapes to make a subpar village wine? I was hunting bigger game at the time of purchase, but thought I'd take a chance on one of the employee recommendations at wine exchange, and since I'm making a substantial effort on 10' Burgundy, this seemed to fit in well, and it's something I can drink early with little regret - $29.99

It's kind of funny, but I probably enjoyed this more than the 10' Domaine Janasse CdP tried over a couple days starting Sunday, even though that was a little more complex. Love the natural elements found in red burgs especially on the nose, and like the crisp, acid rich palates. Paired this with chicken.

Nose: Red fruits like cranberry, raspberry, cherries, along with honey and some dirt

Palate: Light to medium bodied, strong acid, though it doesn't drown out the red fruits.

Finish: Crisp and medium length

89+ points

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Reply by outthere, Oct 4, 2012.

Flank steak on mixed fresh garden greens with Gorgonzola and a nice vinaigrette. 

Oh, and an 07 Ridge Pagani Zin.

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 6, 2012.

Interesting observation about the Morey St. Denis, JD.  Certainly even the village wines have a good reputation. My experience has been that there's a bit of a premium for those village wines compared to others, but the cognoscenti seem to think they are worth it.

Okay, now for what I had tonight:  Older daughter turns 11 this weekend.  For complicated reasons, we had birthday dinner a night early, we'll do brunch with family tomorrow.  She wanted "rosemary lamb," which is usually a leg but tonight I grilled chops with rosemary from the garden over mesquite charcoal, steamed green beans also from the garden, cherry tomatoes for the b-day girl, also from the garden.  I didn't actually kill a lamb, but that was pretty cool, eating mostly from our own labor. As the fire was dying, I put a few figs on it and we ate dinner while they cooked.  After, I ate a couple and, man, were they good.  I don't even like figs, but these were like fig candy, intensified and carmelized by the fire.  Yum. Here's the wine:

Second bottle of this inexpensive barolo.  Better this time, but it's not the most amazing thing.  Lesson: Buy Ghemme or Nebbiolo from Langhe if you want to save money. but not bad for $25.  Wife said it could have used a few more years.  She's got the palate when it comes to Italian reds, no doubt.  But she liked it enough to head to the kitchen and get the bottle when the carafe ran out. I'm lucky to have a wife who likes wine almost as much as I do.  Typical Nebbiolo descriptors apply, but at first it was all nose, very little palate.  After a couple hours, that reversed a bit.

October in California:  Not as many leaves turning as many colors as back east, but a second harvest of fruits and vegetables from my garden and all those things, like wine grapes, that ripen late.  The only thing I miss from my high school days in the Northeast are the apples. Not enough to make me trade.

BTW, that's my new crepe pan in the background.  Tomorrow, crepes with figs, strawberries, chocolate spread, Comte cheese and other fillings, and Laetitia sparkling wine for brunch when my folks and my sister come by.  Then naps for everyone. 

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Reply by outthere, Oct 7, 2012.

Apples, in Oakland? The RRV was apple country before it was wine country.

i gotcher apples right here!

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Reply by outthere, Oct 7, 2012.

Sorry for the thread drift.

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Reply by EMark, Oct 7, 2012.

Love the pics.

I had Keenan 2006 Napa Valley (30th Anniversary) Merlot, last night.  The "30th Anniversary" designation is in reference to the founding of the winery.  While the label specifies "Napa Valley" I suspect that a large amount of the fruit is from Spring Mountain where Keenan is located.  The wine was fairly complex with layers of fruit (prune) and slight mint, followed by nice (at least I like it) tannin on the edge of the tongue, and some acid, which made this a pretty good wine to go with our grilled flank steak.

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 8, 2012.

More of a guess on Morey St. Denis, but glad it makes some sense. Hope you had a good birthday with your daughter and Fam, Fox. Funny you mention Langhe, was my latest "bargain" purchase this week @ $19.99 from Hi Time, recommended by a staffer, and once again didn't let me down.

2010 Produttori Langhe Nebbiolo 

Interestingly, this only had medium acid at most, maybe that's one reason it was made to drink young. Palate was more herbacious than anything, with some sour cherry fruit peeking its head out. After a while, some semblance of the typical (nebbiolo) "tar and roses" came out on the nose. Unsurprisingly, this went much better with the pizza than the CdP my neighbor brought over. No doubt a solid quaff, I'd recommend at the price level, though this wasn't quite as good as a Vietti Langhe I had a while back for $30.00

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 13, 2012.

First time I've seen this on page 2 in quite some time...Zuf must've been elated when he signed on ; )

Also, tonight was the first Riesling I've tried in quite a while. While I was driving home from work, I knew I couldn't do a dry red somehow, or a dry anything for that matter. Turned out this bottle really hit the spot.

Simple, but pure fruit on this JJ Prum Kabinett...medium freshness on this one at best, but it possessed a saline quality on the brief but enjoyable finish, there was some citrus and residual sugar along with crushed rock, all mingling together quite nicely. I'd say this was semi-sweet...definitely not overly sweet like some Kabinett's I've had in the past. 8% ABV, 87-89 points. Don't see much reason to wait on this, but since I have another I'll see how long I can hold out.

Really looking forward to the next Riesling, which figures to be a nice 2010 Donhoff Spatlese.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 13, 2012.

Note the baseball game in the background of JD's post. 

I view those Kabinetts as ideal drinkers for a summer (or Indian Summer) dinner when you are heating up the grill outside and are going to be drinking something likely red when the temperature drops.  You can have friends over, let the kids run around and, at 8% alcohol, pretty much drink those all afternoon without any effect.  They are fresh, so your palate doesn't get burned out.  Key thing is to have decent acids to cut the RS.  Usually not a problem.  You can also get them "trocken," but I have a hard time believing that they are dry the way a dry Sancerre would be. 

I've had a nasty respiratory thing, but am hoping to be fully up to tasting on Sunday, when we are having a joint b-day party for our oldest (yes, it's going on and on) with friends.  Flank steak and "fallen angel" cabernets for the adults--probably all 2006, and some from the NV floor (Ramey Larkmead, for one) and some from the mountains (Villa Hermosa, Phelan). 

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Reply by spikedc, Oct 13, 2012.

Another bargain Supermarket wine today (£5.99 / $10),  very drinkable, fresh and crisp.  Aroma's of honey and stewed apples, a nice Chenin Blanc

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Reply by outthere, Oct 13, 2012.

Birthday week for my better half

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Reply by The Red, Oct 13, 2012.

Ravenwood 09 Cab Sav Vintner's Blend  with PB & J.  : )

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 13, 2012.

Gosh, had no idea Copain was Mendocino county...cheers to birthday week for daughters and better halves. Engagement anniversary for us today. Went out stuffing our faces with another couple today, had a nice 2010 Chablis, then brats and German beer.

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Reply by outthere, Oct 14, 2012.

JD, Wells sources the majority of his fruit for Copain from Mendo County (Anderson Valley) and the rest from SLO County (Paso Robles). It was just this year that he released his first RRV Pinot from his Estate Vineyard with a Trousseau coming next.

 

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Reply by outthere, Oct 14, 2012.

Creole Chicken on the stove, Giants-Cardinals on the TV and Abrente Albariño on tap!

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