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Snooth User: outthere

Whatcha drinking tonight?

Original post by outthere, Jun 11, 2012.

There hasn't been one of these threads here in quite some time so I thought I'd start it up again. Weather is warm here so I popped a Rosé.

What are you drinking?

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Reply by napagirl68, Sep 21, 2012.

2010 Marotti Campi Lacrima Di Morro D'Alba Rubico......    Sassafras and violets on the nose... earthy , fennel, tart currants on the palate.  A unique wine that I happen to love:

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Sep 22, 2012.

2009 Carlisle Zin (Carlisle Vineyard - RRV) 

Fragrant and lush right out of the bottle. Palate shows a red, blue, and black fruit medley with (barely) civilized tannins and solid acidic support. Some new oak and menthol freshness appear on a nice medium-full finish. Like most wines above 15% in ABV, this really shines with a cooler serving temperature and due to the moderate amount of acidity, paired well with medium cheddar and other soft cheeses. Approachable now, this should show slightly better with another 1-2 years of bottle age. 93% Zinfandel, 7% (Alicante Bouschet, Grand Noir, Petite Sirah, Peloursin, Tempranillo, and others). Nice wine, but IWC a little more exuberant than usual. 91+ points.

Zin to win...

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Reply by zufrieden, Sep 22, 2012.

I think we've been drinking too much every night if we are using this thread to revitalize our raconteurship. I gently recommend: "WHY are you drinking whachyer drinkin' tonite?"  That adds a small but perceptible dollop of philosophical content...

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Reply by shempxyz, Sep 22, 2012.

2011 Madonna Estates (Carneros/NAPA) Muscat Canelli.  I love sweet wines.  This and Asti Spumante are two favorites.  I also enjoy the Madonna Cabernet Saivignon for a change of pace.  I have not been into wine ever except for Asti on special occasions.  Our whim of a bus tour while in San Francisco showed me that tasting and liking is fun.

Why am I drinking more wine after such a long lapse and limited range?  I found an organic, dry-farmed sweet white wine from a family run vineyard who seemed to be able to "humanize" wine for me.  Prior to this I was not ever able to taste many different wines at a time in a way or a place that allowed me the latitude to find what I liked and then, made me feel like it was ok to enjoy what I enjoyed.  Perhaps they "sold me" but I would not drink it if I did not like it.  We were to two other wineries that did not really have very appealing wines for us and while prettier estates, I felt disappointed in their quality. 

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Reply by EMark, Sep 22, 2012.

Zin to win?

That's pretty funny.

Probably not as funny as that wine is good.

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Reply by JonDerry, Sep 23, 2012.

Thanks Mark, pretty true actually...the Carlisle was arguably better here on night 2. Tannins and oak a lot more resolved, and still with all the tasty fruit you'd expect. Glad to have a couple more in the cellar.

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Reply by outthere, Sep 24, 2012.

That Carlisle has been tasty. Since when do we need a reason other than sheer pleasure Zuf?

Tonight we enjoyed a simple Seghesio SC Zin because I qued a Tri-tip and thought it would go well with it.

Get that iOS 6 for your iPhone. It finally supports pictures in forums!

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 24, 2012.

This morning wife left on a business trip, so I'll nurse this bottle over the next couple nights, which means it has to be versatile.  Syrah does that for me.  (There's the soupcon of philosophy from me.)  I also hate to bust out anything pricey, rare, special, when it's just me and the kids, so this one, a discounted special, was worth a shot:

BTW, how about that still life?  Anyway, I bought this one because it was interesting.  I like the Point Concepcion Pinot (just had the Salsipuedes) for the money, but the Encantada vineyard is well known, but, again, for Pinot.  It's my belief that a lot of Pinot vineyards are actually better at growing Syrah.  (Hudson springs to mind.)  Anyway, this turned out to be really interesting.  Not very Syrah like at first, maybe more like a dolcetto. On the nose, I smelled cherries, licorice, orange peel (which I thought was my compost bin at first), and pekoe tea.  On entry, more cherries, umeboshi plum, tart and bitterish, in some ways like a dolcetto or a wine from Ciro I had once.  The finish was really long, and that's when the more syrah like flavor of black olives came on.  But palate and finish revealed some disjointed tannins.  Later on, the nose and palate revealed tobacco, more of that orange rind and pekoe tea, and the tartness settled down.  The tannins were still not well integrated.  The finish didn't drop off.  There were crystals on the back of the cork and in the neck, and the wine is 7 years old already, so you have to wonder when it's going to settle down, but it's not lacking for interest and complexity.  And there's still more than a half bottle left.  Can't remember a wine that made me so avid to write down what I was tasting--this just had really delineated flavors as opposed to the usual hard to describe whole I often find, dominated by just one or two nameable impressions.

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Reply by JonDerry, Sep 24, 2012.

That still life is pretty nice Fox, except the Point Concepcion label kind of throws it off. Oh well, at least it sounds like it was an interesting wine to drink at a bargain price. I've shipped to Salsipuedes before, if it's the same thing it was some street in Santa Barbara I believe...

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Reply by EMark, Sep 24, 2012.

Earth tremors in RRV tilting the entire world 90 degrees?

OT, it's funny that I picked up the very same Seghesio Sonoma County on a foray, Saturday.

Fox, good photo.  What are the dried pods in the green bowl.

Jon, I should have also complimented your pic.  When you can read the embossed lettering on the photo, that is very good.

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Sep 24, 2012.

Don't mention it, I actually cheated and grabbed the image from a search ; x 

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Reply by EMark, Sep 24, 2012.

No, no, Jon.  Your response should be, "Thank you.  It took me about 45 minutes to get the lighting, and the focus, and the angles just right."  ;-)

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 24, 2012.

Salsipuedes vineyard is located in the Santa Rita Hills AVA (mostly--it's big) and is planted exclusively to PN and chardonnay.  Ken Brown and a host of others source there.  There is also a street in SB by that name. 

Oddly, none of the information about La Encantada indicates that they have any Syrah planted.  Hmm.

Emark, the produce on that counter comes from my garden--next time I'll get some tomatoes in the picture.  The pods are actually different varieties of beans that got too big and stringy too eat because we just can't keep up with it.  I dry them and use them for planting the next year.  I'm also planning to take some of them and eat them as navy beans/Great Northern beans.  I also dry Scarlet Runners and some purple pod beans and have enough now to build a menu around them.  Probably with duck.  But here's the funny thing:  This year I grew Scarlet Runners and they cross-pollinated with something in years past because this year the dried beans are brown and white, not purple and pink.  Kind of like the white Tempranillo, except it mutated right on the existing vine.  I think next year I'll plant some seedlings for the Scarlets just to return them to type, but it's been pretty interesting.  I might plant some of the mutants as well, at the other end, and see what happens.  Now if I could just master growing peppers besides pimientos de padron.  To date, I've been a failure.

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Reply by outthere, Sep 26, 2012.

Making BLTA's and Poblano n' Corn Chowder tonight to go with this.

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 26, 2012.

Our palais de Californie are speaking French tonight.  It was Yom Kippur, so wife fasted.  We broke the fast with eggs (y'know, breakfast, eggs) in a frittata with potatoes, spinach and onions, some Point Reyes Toma, Cypress Grove Humbolt Fog cheese and one other with a wine-soaked rind, bagels, salad, and this fabulous Sancerre:

Sorry about the blurry label, it's 2011 Paul et Jean-Marc Pastou La Cote de Sury, an absolute steal at $20 from Wine Mine.  I am going back for more first chance I get.  First sip was pure grapefruit pith, then the wet stones started coming out.  Absolutely mouth-watering acids, even puckering. I just had my teeth cleaned at the dentist, but this would have done just as well.  Perfect with the light fare. By the end it was a little bit of candied lemon peel, a touch of salinity, and still those acids.  Yeah, I like the low pH white wine. Only Vouvray/chenin can match really good Sancerre, imo.

Bad framing of that photo, but, yeah, those roses came from the back yard.  The vitamins are from Trader Joe's. The apples are from my sister-in-law in Sebastopol.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 26, 2012.

OT, how was that? I just got email from K and L about the sister wine to that, I think, and  Parker raved about it FWIW.  We have similar palates--worth the tariff?

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Reply by outthere, Sep 27, 2012.

It was pretty big and fruity but balanced. @ $14 I thought it was a bargain. This was the last of 7 that I bought from Last Bottle. If it became available I would buy again.

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Reply by JonDerry, Sep 27, 2012.

Good to hear of the successes with the imports tonight, I would've made it a French trifecta if I could've made it to my storage locker today, was craving Burgundy. Will have to wait another day or two.

That $14-20 range can get some really nice European wines from all sorts of regions. I always shake my head when I hear people limiting their purchases to $10 or less bottles, but as we know that's what the mass of the wine drinking population are looking for.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 27, 2012.

I find good wines under $10 but only through my local discounter. But even if you are willing to go a hair over $10, the range is much better.  Creta Roble RdD comes to mind, lots of decent whites, even from the US.  I found a Vouvray for 13.50 at WineMine that I will report on later.

OT, 7 bottles?  That's an odd number in more than one way.  But it does come to almost $100 even, so maybe that was the budget.

Hey, there's a goal:  Drink 7 nights for under $100.  That still would be more than most people spend on wine ($5200 a year sounds lots worse), but kind of an interesting benchmark for middle class wine lovers.

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Reply by EMark, Sep 27, 2012.

Sorry, I haven't been making much of a contribution to this thread, lately, and I don't know how many will be interested in this, but I have a mechanism to very accurately track all my finances--including expenditures.  I can report that my expenditures for wine in the last 12 months was very close to the $5200 target that Foxall suggested above.  Now, of course, that number does not directly translate into the $ amount that my wife and I have consumed in the last 12 months.  Many of the wines that I have purchased in that time period are in storage and will not be opened for a few years.  On the flip side of that, many of the wines that I have consumed in the last 12 months were purchased years ago at a much lower price than the going rate of current offerings.

How does my spending compare to the universe of wine drinkers?  I suspect that I am above average if one looks at all wine drinkers, and in this group I am including very casual wine consumers.  I suspect I am close to average in the set of Snooth members, and I suspect that I am below average in the set of "more prolific Snooth Forum posters."

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