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Snooth User: napagirl68

Whatcha drinking tonight- part 2 (for Zuf)

Original post by napagirl68, Apr 28, 2013.

 

 

 

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Reply by napagirl68, May 30, 2013.

Foxy- so glad you and your wife enjoyed a nice night. Yes, mark up for cellaring is painful, but understandable.  Sounds like you made a decent choice. 

Elizabeth is great:-)  I find her one of the nicest people you'll meet- like Dave (the wine whisperer).. hmmm- no coincidence there.  They both entertain my 9yr old as well.  What a hidden gem....

JD- I criticized SoCa pinots previously, and I stand by that, until proven wrong.  Take the dare???

However, I was totally impressed by the Curran Tempranillo... 2007- ck it out!  Sounds like Foxy had a good experience with the Grenache Blanc as well.  Will have to seek out more :-)

 

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, May 30, 2013.

Brain cramp!  Give me a break, I'm 50!  I knew it was Emark that posted about the Lucia.  Mistype.

My AFD didn't materialize.  I got home in time to share some pizza with my daughters and some wine with our babysitter.  Completing our loop of "killer bees," it's a J-L Colombo Cotes du Rhone purchased from LastBottle with a friend so we could get free shipping--about $9 a bottle, I think,  Cellartracker hasn't been kind, but I liked it fine. So did the sitter, so I gave her my last bottle. 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, May 30, 2013.

OT, it would be fun to do some verticals of those Roars.  I have all the SLHs, Garys, and Rosellas from '09 on, I think.  But I didn't really get into it as early.  My own favorite is the Rosella's, but I think the Garys's just takes a little more time to come around.  The Pisoni is just too big, IMO.  The appellation blend is fine and good enough to stun the usual PN drinker, and it used to be pretty reasonable.  I've got the new Sierra Mars--there's one prior vintage, but they didn't sell a bunch because the vineyard is so new.  That's one I am very interested in following as the vines age.  By now, the Pisoni, Garys, and Rosella's vineyards are well established, if not thirty years old.  They should keep improving and evolving, but the basic character is showing, I'm guessing.

JD, take NG up on that challenge--and invite me along.  I really want to try the Sandhi, although I think Parr is a boor and Sashi Moorman is good, but overrated.  I'm beginning to think my sweet spot is SLH and Anderson Valley for PN and Sonoma for Syrah, with a little PN as well.  Maybe a four-way battle:  SRH, SLH, Sonoma True Coast and Anderson Valley.  We'd have to do three or so flights--$35-ish, $50-ish, and something we would never buy otherwise because it's too expensive.  (I've got a GoldenEye Gowan's Creek that might qualify--crazy impulse buy.)

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Reply by JonDerry, May 30, 2013.

Sounds like a plan re: domestic Pinot, but let's throw in Oregon. Also, SLH is Santa Lucia highlands? Good Mourvèdre there too from what I hear.

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Reply by napagirl68, May 31, 2013.

Interesting... I can see the palates taking form as I read more and more.

SLH (yes, JD- Santa Lucia Highlands) pinot is a bit too "dark", "big", and "purple" for me.  That is just my own little palate.  It is prolly why I didn't like the Garys' version from a winemaker I like in SCM.  Yes, I do like SOME SCM (santa cruz mtns)  pinots, but they are almost too far toward that end of the spectrum that I do not prefer. 

My fav pinots overall tend to come from 1. Sonoma Coast (Petaluma Wine Gap is a fav area) and RRV (mostly like a few wineries out of Sebastopol).  I also like Syrahs from RRV.

Oregon has a few notable pinots as well.  I thoroughly enjoyed the pinot we tasted on a virtual here, a few years back, from Stoller Vineyards. 

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 1, 2013.

Had a fun pizza night with the neighbors...we had some good pies, watched some random canadian comedy series on netflix, called trailer park boys.

The Lagier Meredith didn't have much competition this night, by far the best. To my surprise, I found the '08 ready to go right off the bat...great balance of freshness, delicious syrah fruit with that classic pepper note. My wife even liked it, so sounds like this will be finding a niche in the stockpile. Need to get more '08 and want to try the '10 as well. After having this wine at 12+ years, 6 years and now 5 years old, I'm thinking around 5 is the sweet spot for me.

My neighbor brought the '10 Frei Brothers Cabernet...last time he brought the same wine, but an '08 and I remember that surprised the hell out of me with it's long and intense finish. The '10 was a little more streamlined, heavy on what was bordering overripe cab fruit and some oak, but have to say this is a name that delivers good value in my experience. Would be a good party wine, especially for casual wine drinkers who like cabernet.

I also cracked open my first Salice Salentino, thinking it might be a good pizza wine. This '07 Vereto had probably been on the shelf too long however...it had trademark old world freshness, that shone above the diminishing fruit. Just not a wine of much personality, though it was drinkable, it was just kinda there for the ride.

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Reply by Argovino, Jun 1, 2013.

The best recent tastings from Argovino...

 

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Reply by outthere, Jun 2, 2013.

Last night was a 21st birthday celebration at our home. Was hot, 98 degrees at 5 PM, so we had lots of light wines.

  • 2012 Gracianna Sauvignon Blanc x2
  • 2012 Apsara Sauvignon Blanc x2
  • 2012 Copain Tous Ensemble Rose of Pinot x2
  • 2012 Bedrock Ode to Lulu Mourvèdre Rose x2
  • 2012 Zepaltas Rose x2
  • 2009 Gracianna Pinot Noir

And after it started cooling down...

  • Sherman & Hookers Shebang! Fifth Cuvée x4
  • 2011 Rancho Zabaco Sonoma Heritage Vines Zinfandel x3

Oh, and we had some beers as well.

  • Russian River Brewing Co Damnation Belgian Style Ale x6
  • Russian River Brewing Co Sanctification Wild American Ale x6
  • Russian River Brewing Co Redemption Blonde Ale x6
  • Russian River Brewing Co Blind Pig IPA x6
  • Russian River Brewing Co Pliny the Elder Double IPA x6
  • Sierra Nevada Old Chico Crystal Wheat x6
  • Hoptimum Whole Cone Imperial IPA x6
  • Bear Republic Brewing Racer 5 IPA x12
  • Bear Republic Brewing Hop Rod Rye Specialty Ale x6
  • Drakes Brewing Co 1500 Dry-Hopped Pale Ale x6
  • Coors Light 30pk for the rednecks

Fun night, couldn't have asked or better weather out on the back patio and deck with 40 good peeps. Only 24 drinkers in the group. Today we keep the shades drawn and the noise to a minimum. ;)

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 2, 2013.

OT, you have my sympathies.  The wages of hedonism...

Okay, tonight was special:  Wife back from a trip, youngest daughter off to sleep-away camp for five days starting tomorrow.  Oh, and amazing weather.  So, out comes the Holy Grail.  Do you even care what we ate?  This wine steals the show in every vintage.  Maybe Zin doesn't age, but at 5 years old, this is about as delicious as things get.

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Reply by EMark, Jun 3, 2013.

I had never had a Lagrein before.  Again, Snooth teaches me new stuff every day.  So, when we were up in wine country a few weeks ago and visited the Imagery winery near Glen Ellen, I was pretty pleased to see that they offered one.  The taste we had at the winery was satisfactory, and, so, I bought some.

 

Initial taste this evening was sweet--almost caramelly.  That sweetness, though, is only on the tip of the tongue.  As the wine moves through the palate, sweetness is gone.  There are raspberry/fig hints.  Then you get some, not much, tannin.  Y'know, now that I think of it, this wine is similar to those "jammy" zinfandels that were the fad a while back.  However, I recall those as haveing a big hit of alcohol in your mouth and I don't get that with this.  Anyway a fun wine.  Mrs. Emark is creating some sort of pasta dish by pulling stuff from the garden, the cabinets and the refrigerator.  So, this will be good with it.

 

 

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 4, 2013.

I'm looking forward to trying that bottle of Imagery you gave me, Emark.  I think the profile you cited--a little opening sweetness, low tannins--is part Lagrein, part Paso Robles heat.  It's never a big tannin wine, so the knock is it can't age, although I've had rosato made from it that was five years old and doing fine.  It can have more or less structure, but one thing Lagrein has going for it is that even it's best bottles aren't super expensive.  I brought one to an offline that GdP was going to be at because no way am I going to find a Barolo, decant it for a day, and somehow drive it up to Sonoma... and I know GdP and I both dig Lagrein and I can get the best one out there for under $40. 

Speaking of bargains, we drank that Joel Gott SB with pesto and roasted vegetables last night.  We'll step it up to Sancerre sometime this summer, but no complaints, that's crisp, delicious stuff.

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Reply by Ivesreeves, Jun 4, 2013.

Delightfully deep hue for a simple table red. As dark as a James M. Cain novel, this wine might just be equally as schizophrenic. Is it a Zin? A Merlot? Or do I detect a discreet Syrah? Sip the mystery for under 10 bucks and decide for yourself.

 

 

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Reply by outthere, Jun 4, 2013.

I'm taking an early peek at tomorrow's VT! 3 hrs in and the spice on pop n pour has mellowed but the oak is prominent. Enjoyable nose of graphite and vanilla, lots of juice and lots of drying tannins.

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Reply by napagirl68, Jun 5, 2013.

OT... we opened that last night...

Upon opening, I got big menthol/eucalyptus off the nose.  Big, huge oak, I agree. And tannins galore.  This, as to be expected, needed to open up.  After opening up for a few hours, mild eucalyptus, an herbal/green note, cherry, and coffee.  Substantial with a nice finish.

Open, open, open!

Haven't tasted the others yet...

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 5, 2013.

I'm going to resist the urge to say it's Petite Sirah, aka Durif, and it's from "Cupcake," a pseudobrand of The Wine Group, the failed experiment of the Coca Cola Company, except I just said it.

I haven't purchased the RdD wines, and I also haven't seen any bottles for the last three VTs.  Since I need to control the inventory in the basement, I drank this nice bottle that I had JD pick up for me in SoCal and ship.  He had one, but he drank it too soon and really didn't get the full impact.  I love good Dolcetto and Chionetti and Anna Maria Abbona make the best there is--both specialiize in it, although AMA also makes a little Nebbiolo.  To me, it's like Beaujolais (except I don't really love Beaujolais) in that you can get totally competent juice for $15, but for $20 you get the grand cru quality.  After sitting in the basement for about 6-8 months, this was just perfect.  Medium to low acids, smooth tannins, and yummy cherry and blackberry fruits, a little blackberry leaf. 

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2013.

Glad you enjoyed the Chionetti Fox..,the Winex note mentioned it would be rocking in six months but I basically ignored it. Actually I got to drink the Chionetti and the Anna Abbona within a short time of eachother and the AMA seemed a cut above, but I also learned that I don't in all likelihood have an enthusiasm for the grape. Truth be known, I'm still waiting on a Nebbiolo that wows me also, but I've seen enough of the light to buy and cellar them.

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Reply by EMark, Jun 5, 2013.

Hey N. Cal. guys, does anybody know anything about this winery -- Les Caves Roties de Pente.

 

I picked up this Carignane on a provisioning expedition a month, or so, ago.  It is so unusual to see a varietal bottling of Carignane.  I could not pass it up.  I opened it up, last night and was very please--full bodied, earthiness that I seem to always detect in Carignane, plum/berry fruit that is detectable, but does not dominate.

I went to their web site and it seems that they are located in Dry Creek Valley.  However, it appears that they source their grapes from all over Sonoma County, and they have one bottling that uses Mendocino fruit.

Their bottlings also include Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay, Syrah, Petite Sirah, and Zinfandel.  Their prices seem pretty reasonable--for the most part in the $20-$30 range.  Their spendiest is the $50 SVD Syrah.  This is the one from Mendocino, and their description is quite intriguing.

Bells Echo Vineyard is situated in its own private valley along Feliz Creek and among the Pacific Coast Mountains. This is the heart of the acclaimed North Coast Mendocino Wine Region. A powerful expression of syrah. Aged for 14 months in 50% new French and Hungarian oak. Whole cluster with native yeasts. On the nose you will find rich notes of smoke, cassis, acacia flowers, earth and leather. Full bodied with a core of blackberries, espresso and toast. California syrah at it’s best!

The vineyard has its own private valley????  Other vineyards are excluded????

I don't know why that tickles me, but it does.

 

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 5, 2013.

I hear you on the Nebbiolo.  I've had some I really liked, like the Ghemme we drank in Stresa last year, and the L.A. Cetto that was given to us.  But the hardcore stuff, esp Barolo, is a bit of a crapshoot.  Takes forever to come around, needs gentle handling (not always clear what's needed--decant, double decant, how many hours/days) and can be hard to drink even if you play by the rules.  And it's pricey.  Kind of like Burgundy, except with Burg it's always that you missed the peak by 5 minutes. 

My Dolcetto fondness is like my Lagrein fondness--not an epiphany wine, but it has its own character, it's not widely grown, and it never gets that expensive, so I can drink it at the top of its game whenever I like.  Plus they don't need to be the center of attention.  Since it doesn't show up everywhere, I don't get tired of it and I can safely introduce friends to a new grape without it being divisive or difficult. But I do think the AMAs and the Chionettis are really good--better than just okay.  Give it some time and try again.

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2013.

Sounds fair enough, the book is never closed.

Also have to give props to Burgundy for drinking well young. Can't really do that with Neb.

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Reply by napagirl68, Jun 5, 2013.

Emark-  I just had a wine from the winery you're talking about.  It was the syrah, and I got it a a SF bay area wine shop when I asked about "cool weather" syrahs.  It was the Bells Echo Anderson Valley (or Mendocino).  It was a "maybe' recommendation from my wine guy when I described the syrahs I love (Carlisle, Balletto).  It was ok for me... hubby loved it.  I cannot be relied upon to rank it tho, as I am very narrow in my syrah preferences.

I recognized the label on your picture!  Otherwise, I prolly wouldn't have remembered.

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