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Vissani 52 bottle wine cellar

Original post by VegasOenophile, Dec 1, 2009.

I made that my first black Friday run, to Home Depot to grab one of these. At $148, it's hard to beat a wine fridge that size. I have a Danby dual zone which is supposed to hold 30 bottles. Trouble is, the top "red" section only has two shelves and even when lined with all bordeaux bottles, they are too snug to slide out with the drawer. The remaining four shelves for "whites" are not spaced well enough for burgundy size bottles or champagne format. It gets tedious making it work and the cooling system seems to sometimes not work as well as it should. I fear it's on its way out, plus I have well over 30 bottles at any given time, so I needed something else.

It fits things great! I was wondering if anyone else went and got the Vissani one on black Friday? If your Home Depot has any left, I believe the lowered price still applies. My store has three left, so I'd assume they didn't sell out across the board.

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Reply by VegasOenophile, Mar 20, 2010.

I'd say lower, it gets like fridge cold...

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Reply by MDWineGuy, Jun 28, 2010.

If you want to turn if off, turn the knob to "0" while keeping it plugged in; otherwise you can just unplug it.

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Reply by lingprof, Jun 28, 2010.

@vegas:  How's that working out for ya?  It's been 6 mos now, are you still liking it?  I'm in the market for one, so.....

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Reply by outthere, Jun 28, 2010.

We have 2. Work much better than the POS Haier thermoelectric model we started out with. They take a while to dial in temp on as it tends to cool a few degrees below what you initially set it at but ours are a steady 51 degrees and they hold all 52 promised bottles. Probably 42 or so Syrah/Burgundy style bottles plus narrower bottles on the bottom rack and under the control panel. Will not hold a tall Riesling or Pinot Gris bottle. Overall I am quite pleased. Been almost a year now.

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Reply by lingprof, Jun 28, 2010.

thanks @outthere!

 

Given all the positive reviews I've seen, plus the low price, plus not having to pay for shipping, I think I'm going to get this and give it a try.

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Reply by AmandaD, Jul 6, 2010.

I just purchased and so far so good.  I agree that if all bottles were standard 750ml (not Bordeaux or Champagne type) 52 would fit.  Drawer does not slide when full, but all I need at this price is to keep wine from getting warm.  I love it!

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Reply by outthere, Jul 6, 2010.

Just remember one thing. If you turn on the light to find something remember to turn it off or you will heat up the bottles on the top shelf.

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Reply by VaderSS, Sep 23, 2010.

I just bought one of these for $200 at Home Depot, plus $25 for an extended warranty.  I was able to fit 52 bottles of wine in it.

I actually like that it is compressor based, rather than thermo-electric, as compressor based systems typically last much longer, and don't vibrate enough to hurt the wine.

The compressor and refrigerant do make some noise, but it is non-intrusive, and I can't hear it from another room.  I have it in my formal living room, which is rarely used anyway.

The way I did it was to stack 16 bottles on the top rack, 14 bottles on the middle racks, and 8 bottles on the bottom rack.  Most of my bottles are standard size with 5 bottles of sparkling wine on top of the bottom rack, 3 on the rack itself, and facing the other way.

In order to make it somewhat easy to get bottles out, I put mostly cases(large quantities of a single wine) on the bottom and rear portions of the racks, with single and doubles stacked on top.

If I had a large variety of wines, it would be a pain, but I have several cases of my favorites.  As I use up my favorites, I'll purchase more cases.

At this price, I'll wind up buying another by the end of the year.

Keep in mind that this wine cooler is meant to be used indoors, with a room temp of 58-77degF.  It is not meant to be used in a non-temperature controlled environment.

My goal was simply to hold the temp of the wine steady at about 58degF.  Living in northern California, it does not have to work too hard to do that.  The compressor rarely runs.

Keep in mind that the optimal storage temp of all wine is 55-60degF.  You should use a refrigerator or a separate wine cooler to cool it below that.  The instructions say to set the thermostat at 2 for reds and 6 for whites, but you should really just try and get the temp between 55 and 60 and keep all wines, white or red, at that temp for storage.

 

Wayne B.

 

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Reply by VaderSS, Sep 26, 2010.

Update;

I now have the cooler set to 4.  This is giving me a temperature of 60F at the warmest bottle, which is on the upper right, and 54 on the coldest bottles, which are at the bottom.  The temperatures fall gradually, the lower the bottle position.

The bottle temperatures are holding very steady, less than 1F total variance over the course of the day.  I think it is actually tighter than that, but my infared thermometer gives varied readings.  The actual liquid temperature is probably holding even steadier, but I don't have a bottle probe to measure.  At any rate, the temps are holding a lot steadier than they did before I had the cooler...

As for energy usage, with an ambient room temperature of 72 - 66F, and the cooler set on 4, I am seeing an average of 260 watt-hours(.26kiloWatt-Hours) per day in usage.  This is the eqivalent of an 11 watt light bulb running continously.  This also means that the compressor is running about 2 1/2 hours per day, or about 6 minutes per hour.  Of course, it would run more if the ambient temp was higher, or the cooler was set lower, and vice-versa.

Everyone has seen it says it looks very nice, and is astounded by the low price.

I am very happy with my purchase

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Reply by VegasOenophile, Sep 28, 2010.

Mine is still cooling well, but I am wondering if any of the other owners of this are having the "popping" issue.  I can't figure out if it's a pressure issue or if something if freezing, but every so often, intermittently, it pops, as if adjusting to pressure or something. Anyone else have this noise issue?

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Reply by outthere, Sep 28, 2010.

No popping but one of mine rattles a bit when the compressor comes on. Not loud but I can hear it when I am in the same room. Keeps the wine cold. That's what I bought it for.

I don't understand the previous poster talking about setting his on 4. Mine have digital displays that display degrees of temperature and not cooling levels. He lso talks about stacing 16 bottles on the top rack? Mine have 7 wire grate shelves. The top 5 hold 8 bottle each and the lower two hold 6 each.

Now doing some investigation I see he bought this one:


while I have 3 of this one:

I was wondering why it was so inexpensive. Mine hold 52 bottles of Burgs/Syrahs/Zins in large bottles like PAX and Turley use. Tight fit between shelves on these big bottles but I made them all fit. I wish bottles were bit more uniform in size as these monsters sure make it tough.

 

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Reply by VaderSS, Sep 28, 2010.

No digital display on the Vissani I have, just a knob that goes from 0-7.  0 is off and 7 is only to be used when starting, and for a maximum of 8 hours.  It has 3 shelves and a rack on the bottom that cradles 6 bottles.  The shelves are adjustable.

 

The  Magic Chef 52 bottle cooler pictured above (silver front trim) in the last post, has many reviews talking about popping, but it does not seem to be a reliability issue.

 

The Vissani is very basic, but for a 52 bottle cooler at $200 or $150 on black friday, it is a smashing deal.  I plan to buy another so I can cellar my entire collection and have even more room to grow.

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Reply by VaderSS, Sep 28, 2010.

Oh, and here is a link to the Home Depot info page on the Vissani;

http://preview.tinyurl.com/38qfmg7

Here is the Magic Chef one;

http://preview.tinyurl.com/23ymrkm

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Reply by outthere, Sep 28, 2010.

Vissani and Magic Chef are interchangeable, exact same product except for the brand name. I have seen both names on the same model in the same store. All 3 of mine are Vissani and I used the Magic Chef photo because they don't list it online as Vissani. Same difference though. What I prefer on my model is being able to adjust temp by degree and not having to stack bottles on top of each other due to the individual shelves. The stainless trim is a nice feature. Also the dimensions are larger and the weight is 31lbs heavier. No bricks inside ;-). Most of all it is free standing and not built in model. This was a necessity for me in my application. 

Cheers!

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Reply by VaderSS, Sep 28, 2010.

I would much prefer the the one you have, if the prices were remotely comparable, but for 1/2 the price, I can live with the compromises. 

The temp is something I've set and will forget now.  The shelves are the main thing I like on yours, but not worth the money to me.  73 Lbs seems heavy enough to me.  I'd care about the stainless trim if it were in my kitchen, but it is not, so it does not need to match.  

 

Time to break out a heavenly Zin!

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Reply by chriswinelover, Dec 23, 2010.

does the interior light ever go off?  Is there a light switch?

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Reply by VaderSS, Dec 23, 2010.

There is a manual light switch.

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Reply by satx, Jan 2, 2011.

Good info on the noise issue, cooling should be no problem. satx

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Reply by Charlie57, Mar 3, 2011.

Is the Vissani a dual temperature wine cooler?  I see that it has a "red" and a "white" setting but do not see any solid shelf separation between reds and whites (my current Haier has such a shelf).  Thanks.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 4, 2011.

Nope, it is one open space inside. Dual temp coolers are much more expensive and to be honest with you my wines don't care if they are red or white at 56º and holding. Besides I'm not doing any long term storage in a refrigerator. These are all to be drunk in 1-4 years.



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