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Snooth User: JonDerry

Value Searching in Bordeaux: Ct. Pontet-Canet

Posted by JonDerry, Jan 5, 2011.

With the highly anticipated crop of 2009 Bordeaux a year or two away from becoming a reality (and alive already if futures are a consideration) i've been searching for where to get some value in Bordeaux. 

Like many of us, i'm priced out on the First Growth vineyards and am looking for very good to exceptional wines I can purchase in the $50 - $200 range. 

With the acclaim the Chateau Pontet-Canet seems to garner, and the pricing at around $60-$90 for past vintages, and $150 for the 2009 pre-arrival I think i've found at least one wine to key in on.

Would love to hear some of your suggestions, am looking for a good value Pomerol as well.

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Reply by JonDerry, Jan 5, 2011.

Answered my own questions with a little research...

Other than PC i'm looking at Malescot, Ct. Saint Pierre, & maybe La Conseillante for exceptional Pomerol at a fraction of the price of Petrus.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 5, 2011.

In Pomerol look at croix st gerorges, it's a steal if you like the style.

Pontet Canet has certainly be on a tear lately, and prices have jumped accordingly.

I think that Leoville Barton, Lynch Bages and Gruaud Larose are worthy of attention. They are generally wines that underperform on release but really blossom with some age.Grand-puy-lacoste usually shows better on release but rounds out my choice for the left bank. All killer wines, add in Troplong Mondot and Canon and I'd be set.

At lower pricing I am a huge fan of Boyd Cantenac and Grand-Puy-Lacoste, La Lagune and Duhart Milon tend to make wines I appreciate . I find them to be great values.

Other wines that have offered good value in the past include

Haut-Bailly, Leoville Poyferre,Lascombes, Magdelaine, Clerc Milon, Brane Cantenac, Beychevelle, d'Armailhac, and Giscours.

Having said all that I would rather buy some back vintage wines than secure these 09s at what are some frighteningly high prices, but to each his own!

 

 

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Jan 5, 2011.

Thanks for the list Greg...point taken on back vintages.  With all the attention of the 09's, i'm sure demand will be dropping and thus value should increase for some older french wines.  I'm not going to spend my whole bankroll on futures, just trying to lock in a couple bottles of what i'm most anticipating. 

It'll be interesting to see where this all leads.  The last record vintage in France happened long before the internet, and who knows what kind of pricing we'll be looking at in a year or two, especially with what figures to be an improving US economy.

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 5, 2011.

I'll agree with Greg on the intelligence of hunting for earlier vintages that have already proven themselves. 2009 is mostly marketing hype at the moment. Something the Bordelaise have proven themselves past masters at.

I've been a steady fan of Pontet-Canet for decades. However, as they head north towards $200 a bottle, they've lost me as a knee-jerk purchaser. I'll be hunting around Bordeaux for others before I take a second look at them, further down the line. At lower prices than Greg's list, and off the classified ranks, I also find I can generally count on Potensac, Poujeaux and Sociando-Mallet. Haven't had any Chasse-Spleen recently but they were also a reliable econo-buy for me over decades, back when Pontet-Canet was, too. More on the right bank another time....


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