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Snooth User: Richard Foxall

Vacation Wines.

Original post by Richard Foxall, Sep 13, 2011.

You could put this under "Wine and Travel," but here's the idea:  dmcker responded to something I said about Cline wines that got me thinking.  Some wines are good, but not necessarily worth seeking out.  They're completely enjoyable, reliable from vintage to vintage, affordable, and widely found.  These aren't always the experiences we are after if wine is a major hobby.  But suppose you go on a vacation outside the Bay Area or another locale where you have access to good wine specialists.  The local markets or liquor stores may not carry less well known brands or items without wide distribution.  And you're gone too long to carry your own wine.  What wines can you buy for under $20 just about anywhere (except a dry county) that will bring you pleasure?  Doesn't have to be a Gallo brand, but what should we look for when it's otherwise slim pickings?  At Thanksgiving, you can find that bottle of LaCrema Pinot for around $20 (more in NY), a bottle of Roederer Estate sparkling maybe, and definitely a Georges duBouef Beaujolais that you can take to dinner and actually enjoy.  Any other good ideas?  What do you do if you're in Wichita, Kansas, where the wine culture (at least as I recall) doesn't exactly support great specialists? 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 16, 2011.

NG: Start a thread about NV.  I guarantee it will be the most lurked at, if not contributed to.  But the comparison is apt:  Mormons drink, they just skulk around to do it.  Wasn't always thus.

outthere:  I have taken SWA all the way to Hartford, CT, when I ran the Boston Marathon in 2000.  (I was visiting friends in Western MA.)  Not ubiquitous.  On the other hand, it's just not always practical to travel with wine.  At least not traveling with kids. And would probably result in my wife calling me crazy. 

Penfolds, great call. 

BTW, JD, I'll call you in an hour or so.  Gotta get to work now.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 16, 2011.

When I say, wasn't always thus with the Mormons, I know whereof I speak.  If you can find my great great grandfather's biography online (his name was Joseph Stacey Murdock, and he now has a wikipedia entry at ), the original version of it indicated that he traded spirits for the return of half his livestock from rustlers.  After they got drunk and passed out, he took the rest of the livestock, too.  Now why, you ask, would he have spirits?  They weren't against the teachings in those days. You don't think they crossed the plains without weak beer when they had no idea where they would find water, do you?

Reply by ScottLauraH, Sep 16, 2011.

I echo Foxall in the difficulty of checking wine at the airport when also traveling with children.  Four out of my five children are under the age 10, so they require a carry-on EACH, and we are paying $25.00 per bag already for each of us.  So, that's $175 in baggage fees already, and then I would have to add an EXTRA bag fee... which is $50.00, which would also be overweight, so we are looking at another $50, so a grand total of $275.00, EACH WAY, in bag fees.  That is on top of the seven plane tickets purchased and the vehicle rental, which has to be a minivan or SUV, or two full size vehicles.  Hence my "aversion" to checking wine as luggage.  I definitely go with the strategy of hunting down decent wine. 

As mentioned before, Chateau St. Michelle and Cupcake are good choices.  I will also look for a World Market, which they recently opened near my sister's house, and they have a nice selection of wines from all over the world.  I also look for South African and Spanish wines, since I tend to find good values in those. 

I have spent many hot Texas afternoons, on "vacation", laying by mother's pool while the kids play, with a bottle of Chateau St. Michelle Riesling on ice close at hand. 

Reply by JonDerry, Sep 16, 2011.

Good call on world market, there's always a chance you'll be able to get some interesting there at least due to them staying true to their name.

Have a good flight Foxall.

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