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The Sweetest of the Sweet...

Original post by w8ng2exhale, Sep 5, 2009.

I have decided to learn about wines specifically because I was tired of going to restaurants and just picking "whatever everyone else picked". My brother, who had been a bartender for over 15 years told me to figure out what grape I liked and then sent me a video y John Cleese called "Wine for the Confused". :) After watching that video, I learned that my palate LOVES sweet wines. My brother then instructed me to learn about the type of grape I liked and after doing some reading (and a it of tastetesting! LOL) I learned that the Moscat grape seems to be where I should start.

The issue is....some of the moscat (or moscato) wines I have had have not really been "sweet" per say. Can anyone start me with the sweetest of the sweet wines and then I can go from there? Any suggestions?

NOTE: I have read about Icewines. Should I start with them?

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Aug 12, 2010.

I think TBAs should never be served ice cold.  The cold mutes a bunch of the flavor and nose.  I think about 50-55 degrees F is ideal.

Reply by MilanB, Aug 12, 2010.

I prefer 8-10 °C (45-50 F) but it is purely personal thing. It will warm-up in glass quickly when served in living room.

Reply by amour, Aug 24, 2010.

This is CANDYLAND for you.

I do enjoy sweet and could not help but share this one, if you can find it.

Those in the U.K. sure would and of course, in France.

Chateau Rieussec 2005  or any other vintage for that matter...

purely toffee and caramel and honey...thick and sweet.

Reply by rposeyca, Aug 28, 2010.

Nector of the Gods:  R.L. Buller & Son Calliope Rare Muscat

Reply by melysaanne, Jan 8, 2011.

If you are wanting to start with a moscato, try the poggio moscato. They serve it at Olive Garden, it is from Italy and it has a bubbly, champagne flow to it. There is also the Candoni Moscato, and Negri from Italy. There is Emeri that is from Australia which is very good. Domestic wise, everyone makes moscato. Beringer is not as sweet, but the Barefoot is, Allergra and Sutterhome are also fairly good. Though I keep trying new ones I find.

Reply by Lillyd40, Feb 26, 2011.

Please try Moscato Alegro made by Martin and Weyrich. Not expensive and absolutely sweetest of them all.

Reply by ChipDWood, Feb 26, 2011.

Ooodles of great suggestions here.  I agree completely with trying out some of the rielsings, particularly from Germany, and if you follow the wines by region, the producer- you can find which you trust, then can try other blends of that same producers.  QBA's are often considered to be the "house wines" of the German estates, working you up in wuality to the aforementioned Kabinnets, Spatlese, Auslese, TBA's, etc.

So, work it and have fun, but I wanted to add another wrinkle to your quest in the form of Chenin Blanc.  It's a grape that's a beautiful tool for winemaker's qho enjoy making crisper, more "refreshing" sweeter wines that aren;t as viscous on the palate but often bring a very dleightfully sweet expression to bear- both on the nose as well as the palate.

Vouvray comes to mind immediately, and there are some very affordable wines made from Chenin Blanc that would give you a try of something a bit sweet, a bit crisp- a bit different than all the fantastic sugestions already posted.

There are few things outside of a nice, sweet and crisp (balanced) Prosecco that I can recommend more for someone after that delightful sweetness that can be enjoyed in the midst of a hot summer day quite like a chilled Chenin Blanc.

Cheers :)

Reply by ChipDWood, Mar 1, 2011.

Good lordy was that some bad spelling.  Chenin Blanc being, still, what i feel a good alternative to all the great suggestions preceding it... my apologies for not knowing how to talk.

Reply by christinekorda, Mar 2, 2011.

Great suggestions

Reply by Cathy97528, Mar 5, 2011.

Have you discovered Foris? 

It's located just out of Cave Junction, Oregon.

They have a Muscato Frissante that is awesome!  We came away with two cases!!!


Reply by Malka Lev Adom, Apr 25, 2011.

Hi w8ing, I'm new around here, and I also have a penchant for a good dessert wine, among other things :)

I work as a wine promoter for one of the tasting companies in Israel, and so my main familiarity at least for dessert wines is locally made ones.

I'd like to suggest that you try a late-harvest Riesling from the Israeli Binyamina winery, "Silver" series. in Israel it's sold for about $10 so I imagine it's very affordable for a dessert wine, too. Drink it cold, it has a lovely honey-mineral nose, and is rather sweet - but not too syrupy. One of the better buys in my book. :)

Other Israeli Dessert wines I can recommend: Golan Heights Wineries, "Yarden" Muscat dessert. It's kind of the safest bet when giving a gift of a dessert wine over here. as for price, it's slightly higher than the Binyamina above but still on the affordable scale. on higher price tag, Golan also offer a "Heightswine" which is basically a faux-icewine, the grapes are mechanically forzen before extraction, and also a Botrytis where a portion of the grapes are manually "infected" with the 'noble rot' before harvest. Nice work. I also recommend that you try Carmel "Kerem Sha'al" Late Harvest Gewurtztraminer. That's as for Israeli wines.

Have you tried red dessert wines, such as port?

Have you tried Gewurtztraminer wines yet? They are amazing, aroma-wise, like a beautiful perfume. The palate doesn't disappoint either, in most cases. May I suggest two that are semi-sweet - indeed, not the sweetest kind but still make a great pairing with Asian - especially Thai - food. The Gewurtz from Arthur Metz (Alsace, France) is the less sweet of the two but lord, the aroma on this one! It's a heady experience, and should be quite affordable too. Chateau St. Michelle's Gewurtztraminer (WA, USA) is a bit sweeter, and is also very aromatic. Both great aromatic whites at a good price. Chateau St. Michelle also has a Riesling that is semi-sweet and has a lovely nose. 

Hope you enjoy!

Reply by donnasusan, Jun 3, 2011.

I didnt read ALL the replys...I really like Barefoot Moscato

Reply by Kelsey Wilburn, Aug 13, 2011.

Oregon's dessert and ice wines, as well as their Rieslings might be a good fit for you. Many people I know dislike them because they're too sweet! Ones that I've enjoyed are Sweet Cheeks Riesling, King Estate Vin Glace (a dessert wine) and I know some other people that like Bridgeview's Blue Moon Riesling. Hope this helps!


Reply by shmuel, May 31, 2012.

I live in Jerusalem, Israel and agree with Malka about the Muscat and faux-ice wines of the Golan Heights Winery. Give them a try.


Reply by John Friedson, Jun 4, 2012.

Austrian Trockenbeerenauslese are far more affordable then German, and to say the least, sweet!

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