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The Sweetest of the Sweet...

Original post by w8ng2exhale, Sep 5, 2009.

I have decided to learn about wines specifically because I was tired of going to restaurants and just picking "whatever everyone else picked". My brother, who had been a bartender for over 15 years told me to figure out what grape I liked and then sent me a video y John Cleese called "Wine for the Confused". :) After watching that video, I learned that my palate LOVES sweet wines. My brother then instructed me to learn about the type of grape I liked and after doing some reading (and a it of tastetesting! LOL) I learned that the Moscat grape seems to be where I should start.

The issue is....some of the moscat (or moscato) wines I have had have not really been "sweet" per say. Can anyone start me with the sweetest of the sweet wines and then I can go from there? Any suggestions?

NOTE: I have read about Icewines. Should I start with them?

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Reply by zufrieden, Jan 28, 2010.

Best not to mix expensive Eiswein with expensive Champagne though - a waste on both counts. But there are lots of other such combinations.

By the way, why not go exotic if you like nice sweet wines of great purity and character? There are all the wonderful suggestions already made above plus Cotnari from Romania (a personal favorite) and Vinsanto from the Greek island of Santorini - a truly luscious wine made from the premium white Assyrtiko grape.

Just a thought.

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Reply by amour, Jan 29, 2010.

Once again, on all fours with zufrieden, regarding the lovely VIN SANTO,
which we have all mentioned on other threads.

VIN SANTO and the italian cookies.........

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Reply by amour, Jan 29, 2010.

CANTALUCCI....the Italian cookies that go so well with VIN SANTO.....
read on other threads.......

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Reply by cnsvineyard, Feb 8, 2010.

Have you thought of wines from other fruits as pear, strawberry or muscadine which is a native grape on the east coast. These wines are sweet but can be paired with a number of different foods or just enjoyed by themselves.

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Reply by shannonziggy, Feb 12, 2010.

I tasted a good sweet wine at a Riesling tasting not too long ago... out of washington state... also not very expensive. Charles Smith "kung fu girl" riesling 2008 - I think it was around $15 or so.

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Reply by shawkes, Feb 12, 2010.

My opinion with people who state they want the sweetest of the sweet is that they want something sweet. Many people who have been drinking wine for a while, especially dry wines can get sensitive to sweet wines, so what you consider sweet does not taste sweet to someone wanting the "sweetest of the sweet". I took a friend to a wine bar she only likes sweet wines so the waitress at the wine bar suggested a Riesling. I said is it sweet, because she only likes sweet stuff, and she assured me that it was. My friend tasted it and said "This is not sweet". I tasted it and it was sweet to me, someone that drinks many other wines, but to her, it was not sweet. Many people are from the "Kool-Aid generation"

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Reply by amour, Feb 22, 2010.

Just an up-date....
OHIO has ICEWINES.......
CHALET DEBONNE...Vidal Blanc icewine
FARINACCI WINERY
FERRANTE WINERY
LAURELLO VINEYARDS

Hope you will find at least one !

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Reply by Cathy Shore, Feb 27, 2010.

Don't forget the sweet wines from the Loire:

A decent Cabernet d'Anjou rosé - which must have minimum 10g/l residual sugar
Wonderful sweet Chenins from Vouvray
Moelleux wines again from the Chenin Blanc made all over the Loire
The wines of Coteaux de L'Aubance and the Coteaux du Layon

And I heartily recommend Rieslings like everybody else. Just a fantastic grape variety - can be lightly sweet or very sweet and excellent with spicey food. It does it for me.

Cathy

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Reply by escabar, Feb 27, 2010.

Hey, do you eat at the Olive Garden? Try their Moscato Provincia Di Pavia and then holla back at me and let me know what you think.

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Reply by Becks13, Feb 27, 2010.

Wow, now you have an avalanche of replys to go through! My recommendation would be (because I'm trying to promote VT wines) a cold-hardy, Vermont-grown grape called La Crescent. I had a 2008 bottle made by Lincoln Peak Vineyard and I thought it was a lovely, sweet wine, very easy to drink. You can drink it by itself or with a light appetizer. That John Cleese video sounds fun, I'll have to check it out!

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Reply by jkaatz, Mar 19, 2010.

one of my favorites is

Muscat de Beaumes de Venise  (FR)
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Reply by amour, Mar 22, 2010.

A certain softness and slight sweetness is noted when a red wine

has been made from fully ripe grapes from a great vintage

in BURGUNDY/FRANCE or BORDEAUX/FRANCE.

This is also the case when the wine is originating from a hot sunny area.

I have heard it said that this could be due to the  unusually high level

of ethyl alcohol, which gives an impression of sweetness.

So, you may want to expand into such wines....perhaps not the sweetest of the sweet but SWEET!....or sweetish.....

Cheers!

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Reply by amour, Apr 1, 2010.

Still coming up with suggestions for the sweetest of the sweet.....

In case we did not mention, Tokaji aszu 5 or 6 puttonyos...from Hungary.

 

In the making of this type of wine, grape paste is added to the base wine.

It is aged for at least 2 years in barrel and then one year in bottle.

And also from South Africa, KLEIN CONSTANTIA, especially, Vin de Constance made from Muscat de Frontignan grapes.

I am told that the 2004 Vintage is the best.

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Reply by tolind, Jun 3, 2010.

Look for Tokaj Essencia. These wines can have much over 300 gramms of sugar per liter and are very rare. Essencia comes from the first juice out of the grapes without pressing just from gravity. Is thick like honey. The ineresting thing is, that it leaves always a sour, acid taste at the end in the mouth. Most sweet wines in the world show to low acidity and therefore after two, three glasses you are fed up.

More popular while cheaper are 6 putt. Aszu´s from Tokaj or Aszu Essencia. I am rlated to the Gróf Degenfeld winery in Tarcal/Tokaj. If you want to know more check the website(www.degenfeld.hu) or ask me.

Regards

Thomas

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Reply by Benbythelake, Jun 13, 2010.

one of my fiance's favorite rieslings of all time was "bolig leinhart", mosel-saar-ruwer, germany.  comes in an arsty green bottle, and sells for just above $15 if i remember correctly.   and she LOVES the sweet whites!!! enjoy!!!

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Reply by amour, Jun 27, 2010.

Yesterday I tasted and DRANK one of my less expensive Sauternes.

I want to share it with the beginners in search of quality sweet wine!

1er Cru Classe De Sauternes 2006

 CHATEAU LAFAURIE-PEYRAGUEY

This is a treat.....you are sure to get hooked!

Here is my very own true description!

Fat and fleshy and very impressive indeed.

Perfection beyond belief!

Good acidity and fine style.

Rich harmony.

It is the very rich botrytis-laden taste and the hints of great marmalade that send me!

As does the long appealing finish........none of the  bitterness which some expert tasters noted when they did barrel tastings.....and no taut finish at all.......in 2010, those are long gone.

The weight on the palate is in perfect equilibrium......

with a touch of gingery spice.....

What a way to end a meal!

 

I have followed Chateau Lafaurie Peyraguey (Sauternes)

and this 2006 has really developed nicely.

Other great vintages are: 1945

                                     2000

                                     2004

                                     2005

 

Lafaurie is now owned by GDF SUEZ....they have energy interests and have been, (since the mid-1980's when they bought it), putting in a lot of effort and modernization.

For those of you visiting Miami, Florida, you can have it by the glass  ($12. U.S.) at CAVIAR&MORE in the up-scale, flagship Aventura Mall....a real treat if you love the sweetest of the sweet!

Cheers, amour!

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Reply by espdoll, Jun 27, 2010.

Your preferences are the exact same as mine. Since I have been on my path seeking delicious  "sweet" wines, I've settled on moscato also. My palate must be slightly different from most, because wines that are labeled sweet or suggested by someone wasn't sweet enough for me. I would like to suggest you experience the sweet smooth taste of Cantina Gabriele, sweet wine moscato.Hmmmm, yes it's nice. Then another favorite of mine is Hatteras Red, another excellent sweet wine. I have 3 new bottles I just purchased as I drink them I will share if they are truly sweet.I know this was an earlier post I would love to hear how your wine search is progressing.

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Reply by siry, Jul 27, 2010.

I would have to agree that German wines are a great start as I found out that I enjoy the sweet wines myself.  I am a fan of Rieslings but I would have to say they all have subtle differences and not necessarily have the same amount of sweetness. I am a great fan of Liebfraumilch as well and I would have to say that's in my fridge now. 

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Reply by MilanB, Aug 12, 2010.

I would suggest to try some sweet wines from area of Neusiedlersee (Austria) as well. They make nice Trockenbeerenauslese Rieslings - it means that wine is made from dried berries. It is sweet (e.g. 250g of residual sugar/l) but different from German Rieslings. Dried berries contain not only concentrated sugar, but also acids and aromatic elements. It has to be served very cold (usually in ice bucket - like Champagne) and it almost "explodes" on your palate.

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Reply by amour, Aug 12, 2010.

Thanks, MilanB !



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