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Snooth User: JonDerry

The LA Somm Scene

Posted by JonDerry, Apr 18, 2017.

I've come across a few female Somms, or other certificate holders over the years who make a living from working in restaurants by night and managing collectors cellars by day, and/or organizing tastings and events. I suppose most collectors are older gents who enjoy having a good looking, educated woman help them build and keep up their cellars.

Here's Lelanea Fulton, who just recently moved to LA from New York.

Also read about a dream pizza place in LA that I'll need to check out some time soon. The place seems to have been made for someone like me...seems like it could appeal to my family as well.

Jon & Vinny's


Reply by dvogler, Apr 18, 2017.

I had a look.

I can't imagine paying someone to look after my wine, but I don't have the income to buy enough to worry about.  That's what CellerTracker is for!  As you say, I can see Jack Nicholson paying her to come over.

Pizza and wine is great, but the pizza has to be like OutThere's.  It has to be good and the wine is secondary imho.  There's a wood fired pizza place in Victoria and they have about seven Italian reds, and they go nicely with the pizza and aren't expensive.

Let us know how Jon & Vinny's is if you go.

Reply by GregT, Apr 18, 2017.

"I’ve been collecting Gunne Sax clothing since high school, so that would’ve been in the ‘90s. Gunne Sax is a brand that was made in the ‘60s in San Francisco, all the way up to the early ‘90s. Different designers would come on, and Made by Melissa collection is what I predominately wear, because it’s a little more flow-y, angelic, and feminine. It seems to fit so well for me, and so I’ve been collecting these since high school. I grew up with super-bohemian parents that were artists, so it’s been very much a part of my upbringing. I also like to buy clothing that’s made in America, so it’s perfect. And the great thing about vintage is that you’re not going to walk down the street and see somebody else wearing what you’re wearing."

Most sought-after somm in NYC? I can see why. She used to model, decided wine offered better longevity if you're not Cindy Crawford.

The pizza place sounds like a NYC joint though. Even better, because there they can't deliver wine. Worth checking out.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 18, 2017.

Burgundy with pizza?  Seriously?  Well, maybe if there's no tomato sauce.

I love wine with pizza, although our best local pizza joint really does beer well, so when we eat there, that's what I have.  But the wine wants to be rustic, with decent acid to not be offputting with the sauce.  I'll drink Barbera, Sangio, and a bunch of other Italian things, and maybe I'm just being narrow minded.

Reply by Really Big Al, Apr 18, 2017.

I'm pretty open when it comes to red wine or beer with pizza.  Having a personal sommelier is something I never considered though.  I guess I'm happy with meeting and talking with somm's in the restaurants and taking their advice.

Reply by dmcker, Apr 19, 2017.

Good catch, Greg. I just bounced off the landing page.

What might be interesting would be to get her shit-faced, whether on wine or whatever else, and see what's there when the facade comes down. Nothing wrong with good looking, but that's merely one item on the checklist.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Apr 19, 2017.

Read "Cork Dork" on the plane a couple weeks ago.  Yeah, being attractive seems to be high on the list of qualifications for female somms in NYC.  Probably elsewhere, although in SF the last female somm I remember was more androgynous and hipster-ish, which is probably par for SF.  Gotta say, the book did not make me want to be a somm, although some of the things that the author takes away from her experience certainly resonated. 

Reply by Snoother 2135490, May 26, 2017.

Well, "gentlemen"....I can assure you that one doesn't make it very far in the NYC somm world on looks alone (@GREGT). Just because I have a fashion sense doesn't mean I lack intellect nor does suggest in anyway that my career is built behind a facade (@DMCKER). I grew up helping my father roof houses and the general carpentry so modeling seemed a bit vapid. I am no MS but I can assure you despite my looks & fashion sense and how drunk you attempt to get knowledge is on point and has earned my resumé. If any of you have any interest in discovering something new, expanding your palate or learning, do feel free to email me....I promise my lack of Cindy Crawford appeal won't interfere. 

In closing,

 Just another pretty face

Reply by JonDerry, May 26, 2017.

That is pretty awesome that you found this. Great response, and big points for roofing!

Reply by bostonlobsterman, May 26, 2017.

Côte du Rhône is just fine for me with a wood-fired pizza. 

Reply by bostonlobsterman, May 26, 2017.

DM-  good idea!




Good catch, Greg. I just bounced off the landing page.

What might be interesting would be to get her shit-faced, wheth


Reply by dmcker, May 26, 2017.

SNOOTHER 2135490, why don't you use a name? We'd be very happy to have you join us here in all sorts of discussion. Good for you for stepping up and responding back.

Pretty sure we were all reacting to some perceived attitude, as expressed on your site. Do like the construction experience you describe, but we're all pretty much from Missouri when it comes to wine. Would almost certainly be interesting to drink some bottles with you in a number of circumstances, even if I might not feel the need to pay a consulting fee for the pleasure. Good luck on that business. Perhaps you might even join the occasional offline that the California portion of these boards' members put on?

And I still stand by my suggested verification procedure, when I'm able to make it over there (in Tokyo now).  ;-)


Reply by GregT, May 27, 2017.

Snoother, as Jon said, big points on the roofing! That's something you should put on your page - it's way more interesting than clothing preferences. I grew up in the construction business so I appreciate your work.

As for wine, I'm always looking to expand my palate and to learn. And BTW, back at you with the offer. Anything we can share.

Great response though and more points for stepping up. It would be nice if you hung around a little bit. You'd be welcome.

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