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Taste Comparison: Same Varietal, Same Year, but Different Winery or Different Vineyard

Posted by Really Big Al, Oct 16.

Time for some horizontal tasting.  This topic is specifically to address commonalities and differences between the same grape varietal (or blend) and same year of bottling, but at different wineries or different vineyards of the same winery.  

Take a picture of your two or more bottle comparisons and tell us which is better.  If you can, provide a link to the wines, either from the winery or from a site that reviews wines.  Even better - send us all a bottle so we can decide for ourselves.... :-)

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 16.

I'll start this one off with a comparison of two Cabernet Franc wines, both from Virginia USA.  The year is 2015, and the wineries are in Southern Virginia and Northern Virginia.  The Keswick Vineyards 2015 Cabernet Franc was a bit tart and tannic.  Not my favorite by any means.  We bought it because we did a tasting there last year and you need to buy something, right?  On the other hand, the Wild Boar 2015 Cabernet Franc (from Stone Tower Winery) was much better.  Not as good as the higher end California Cabernet Francs or the French Cabernet Francs to be sure, but I could drink this one on a weekly basis.  It is not tart to my tongue, and I would say medium tannins are present.  This one was worth the money, namely about $40.

Wild Boar is a second label from Stone Tower Winery.  This label is focused on sourcing grapes from non-estate growers, as in California grapes.  

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Reply by rckr1951, Oct 16.

Sounds like fun - if I get over this cold by Sat. I think I'll do one.

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Reply by dottroberta, Oct 17.

Nice wine !

 

Levitra

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 17.

Dot - Do you have two bottles of the same varietal from the same vintage?  Give it a try.

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Reply by EMark, Oct 17.

My PC crapped on my the other day.  That is why I have been AWOL.

Over the past few years I have been collecting Zinfandels--I know, Al, not your favorite ;-)--from different winemakers using grapes sourced from common vineyards.  In the past few months I know I have posted, here,  on Ridge, Seghesio and Bedrock bottlings from Pagani Ranch fruit.  Also, Bedrock, and Once & Future bottlings from Bedrock fruit--and I have more from Limerick Lane and Enkidu.

I have Papera's from Williams-Selyem, Carlise and Bedrock.

I have Monte Rosso's from Bedrock, Carlisle and Seghesio.

The winemakers at Bedrock. Carlisle, Limerick Lane seem to enjoy making wines with each others' grapes.
 
Iv'e also, over the years, had Chardonnays from multiple makers from Sangiacomo and Hyde Vineyards.

I don't, generally, drink them side-by-side.  I can only drink so much per night.  So, my horizontals may not be real-time.

 

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 18.

EM - Sorry to hear about your PC taking a nose dive.  I build all my machines, so if something breaks I can usually figure it out and get it back up and running.  You should check out my web site for my computer builds.

Regarding the drinking of too much wine, the idea here is that you only open two bottles at a time, and you enjoy them over several days.  Using the vacuum stopper approach works well to keep a bottle fresh for several days.  I just purchased two nicely-priced 2012 Rioja wines from my favorite wine shop yesterday (Cat Tuesday), and I will open these soon for a taste comparison.  They are within $1 of each other.  I have tasted both of them before, but not at the same time.

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Reply by EMark, Oct 18.

OK, I'm not really playing in the Horizontal Tasting game, Al, but I just opened up this one.

 

Very easy on the tannin, Al.  So, I think you might like this.  Lite red fruit on entry--so, I like it.  Moderate acid.  There's not going to be much of this one left in a few hours.  BTW, I bought this one at Total Wine.  So, you might want to check your local store to see if they have it.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 18.

Total Wine has the 2009 release for about $37;  our store doesn't stock the 2006 release that you snagged.  I see you reviewed the wine on Cellar Tracker today.  :-)

I bet I would like that wine.  Couldn't you find another 2006 Tempranillo to compare with, in a horizontal fashion?  

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 19.

Would be more interesting, useful and educational for all involved, Al, if you also posted about the similarities and differences between the bottles--in other words provided some proper TNs, to whatever level of detail. Perhaps a weekly theme? Perhaps more would then join in.

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Reply by dvogler, Oct 19.

Who the hell approved the huckster of Levitra (DottRoberta)?

 

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 19.

Don't know, DV, but some of the craftier hucksters initially post something harmless and at least relatively focused towards wine, then later edit their post to include a link offsite to whatever they're pushing.

Italian Levitra, really???

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 20.

DM - As I have stated before, perhaps more than a year or two ago, I don't create tasting notes and especially not 'proper tasting notes'.  I am not good at describing complexities in wine.  I get the mouth feel, I know what I like, but pulling fancy suggestions of what I taste out of my ass is not my style.  I would never make it as a sommelier.  I did make it as an engineer however.

Look here!  Can you see it?  Bath tub ring.  I knew I tasted ring around the collar....

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Reply by dvogler, Oct 20.

DM-

That didn't occur to me.  Her initial post would have fooled me too.

 

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Reply by rckr1951, Oct 20.

I've been caught like that a time or two myself.  We can't catch them all.

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 20.

Al, don't give up so easily--take a stab at it. Any reactions are fine. Just posting pictures of two unknown bottles with no commentary makes it like looking at a couple of dead fish on the kitchen counter....

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Reply by Really Big Al, Nov 1.

We did the taste comparison of our two 2012 Spanish Rioja Reserva wines tonight (during the final World Series game) and while both were very tasty, Sandra and I agreed that the Izadi (number 2) was the better one.  It had a bit more fruit, while the Nucerro (number 1) had more oak.  They were only a dollar apart in cost.  Neither one was decanted and that might have helped them a bit more.


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