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Spam Attack!

Posted by Andrew46, Jan 21.

There are a series of posts that appear to be spam.  What next?

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 21.

This was nothing. Should've been around a couple months ago when Chinese spambots swamped us. Wish I had a dollar for each and every dodgy new Snooth member I banned for spamming.

Not attractive nor fun...

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Reply by duncan 906, Jan 23.

I fail to understand the objective of the spammers

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Reply by rckr1951, Jan 23.

You not alone, but it's not worth dwelling over.

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 23.

Duncan, it's a search engine optimization (SEO) play.

They want people to click to their links. This creates crosslinks with Snooth (and the other sites they're also spamming) as well as merely upping the traffic to their sites when someone decides to press on the link. This then helps them rise in the Google search result rankings so more people see them and the cycle continues, ideally growing somewhat geometrically.They will have ads on their pages that recognize the landings there and this gives them revenue based on those landing statistics--better yet if some viewers clicks through to the ads, which brings higher levels of income. So let a few bots loose and if your luck holds you will have money coming in. Absolutely a crafty numbers game with minimal labor and effort and hopefully maximal return.

Imagine you're in some nasty boiler room sales operation, cold calling all day. 100 calls get 10 appointments get one sale and that's OK for some. Similar concept with much more efficient leverage thanks to digitization and cyber links across the massive WWW.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Feb 4.

The two new spam efforts today are not letting me mark them as spam - they must have figured out how to beat the forum software.  Any ideas?  Has anyone else tried to delete the two new spam efforts today?

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Reply by vin0vin0, Feb 4.

I've seen this behavior before, Snooth admin most likely has to intervene.

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Reply by Really Big Al, Feb 5.

I guess someone did.

 

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Reply by GregT, Feb 5.

I wasted about 20 minutes earlier deleting the stuff then gave up. After that couldn't log in all day. PITA.

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Reply by zufrieden, Feb 5.

So... what is the point of such an attack?  Do the attackers expect free vintage wine?

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 5.

Snooth Admins have been AWOL. Only clearance is what we all are doing.

Snooth does not care about the Forum, obviously. And they have very limited resources for other of their activities these days...

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Reply by GregT, Feb 5.

That's probably true but what is the point of the company? Can't be to sell ads if they let the site go blank.

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 5.

Duh.

Would you rely on them for your advertising, much less any sales?

They were saddled with some draconian restrictions on direct wine sales when Lot 18 went online. Now that Lot 18 has devolved into its own can of worms don't know if any or all of those restrictions have been relaxed, but it's been apparent that Snooth has wanted to push through wine sales for its customers, too. But how can that work with site outages and related unreliabilities?

Serious vision and leadership issues apparent...

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 5.

Need for you olld-timers to catch me up on something...Lot 18...I ordered wine from them 5-6 years ago, that's also Snooth's outlet?

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 7.

Sister/cousin operation, at least at the beginning. A way to channel the logical next step of Snooth's info-and-connections aggregation: direct sales of the wine being discussed. Kinda like IMDB and Amazon, for example, or so someone was thinking. Not sure how it's viewed now by investors, staff, customers.

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 7.

DMCKER - Thanks for that and the PM. To the topic - had to delete some spam on Monday night!

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Reply by GregT, Feb 8.

Deleted some last night. About a dozen. The Lot 18 issue was another of those "seems like a good idea" moments. But with huge security issues.

That's my point though - I can't get the business model at all now. If anyone is going to do sales, it's Amazon and apparently they've figured it out. Wine tourism might have been a thing - hook people up and give them a place to share pics and posts about their trips, and for a while I thought that's what was up with some of the virtual tastings. In fact those weren't bad ideas either - there are a lot of places where you can read about or watch someone else, but participatory tasting is another big step towards community building.

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Reply by DaisyJones, Feb 9.

Yeah it really frustrates me, I run my own community (http://londonpunt.co.uk/) and the spam I get there is ridiculous, take it with a pinch of salt though, when the spam starts to come that's when you know you are successful and have a good website...

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Reply by dmcker, Feb 9.

What are the 'security issues' you refer to, Greg?

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Reply by rckr1951, Feb 9.

DAISY - I beg to differ slightly.  It doesn't take a good website or a website about the next new powerful anti-ed drug to get a bunch of spam.  Many months ago I was reading an on-line article that I had downloaded.  

In that download was a link that I clicked on entered the world of nude beach pictures.  I was a little dismayed that it had happened, but oh well - I backed out and went on my way - deleted the download when I was done and never thought twice about it.

Over the next 2 weeks my spam box was filled with all kinds of offers.  None that interested me as a man that has been married for the last 35 years. Don't have a website either. It took months of not responding to any of them for them to stop.

The point being that it doesn't a take a logical reason why, it happens because it can.

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Reply by EMark, Feb 9.

Daisy, I see that was your first post.  Welcome to the Snooth Forum.  We hope you hang around and share your wine adventures.

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