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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Snooth GTI - Syrah - post your notes here.

Posted by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 8, 2009.

Well I have plans to include several Syrahs in this thread over the next 2 weeks but let me begin with one of my favorite Syrah producers. J L Chave and his lovely 1996 Hermitage:

Richly aromatic from the moment this is opened offering up an array of gamy tones to the earthy, blackberry fruit. Integrated in the mouth with the acidity seemingly quite tame in comparison to other bottles. On the cusp of maturity with a rich core of black raspberry and dried cranberry fruit and the acidity pops out a bit on the back end. A very fine, focused wine that lacks the richness of better years but is wonderful when considered on it's own merits. 92pts

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Reply by fibo86, Jan 9, 2009.

Ok, here I go....Cave De Tain - Vin De Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes - Syrah 2003.
Upon the pour the slight woft of blackberries and clove then an unfortunate stink of wet rusty metal (so a bit of time to air in the glass just in case....)
Cherry with crimson hue, dull.
Lightens out to white pepper, tabbaco, clove and quite earthy not really able to smell much fruit.
Dried prune, leathery,acidic and earthy
Not too sure about this one........ don't really like it. No balance, doesn't seem to have much structure with a rather long acidic end, or may be it's just all too new. Not for me though.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 9, 2009.

Great Note Fibo,

You should plug it in on the wine's detail page here -

Reply by Philip James, Jan 9, 2009.

I'm going to pick up some Syrah's tonight - if i can find it, a bottle of the Marquis Philips will be in my basket.

Reply by MarioRobles, Jan 10, 2009.

Being in Australia, I have a very good line up already...

Reply by Philip James, Jan 10, 2009.

OK, missed the store last night - am off now to go look for something New World I think

Reply by fibo86, Jan 11, 2009.

Ok... oh, oh me again
Montes Alpha 2006 Syrah (aged for one year in french oak)
On the pour leather and violets

Colour/ clarity
black cherry/red hue, not really dull but not really bright either

white pepper,plum , touch of smoke,leather , chocolate, violets, cigar or tabacco, alcohol and a slight jammy smell

mulberry/plum, pepper,mild clove, it also has a slight cigar wood taste( no haven't tasted it, it tastes as a cigar box smells) other spices or spice I just can't pick.

in conclusion I love this wine and will grab it again

Reply by fibo86, Jan 11, 2009.

oh I forgot, well balanced, medium length good fruit..... love this wine for the big $20.00 Australian.

Reply by Philip James, Jan 11, 2009.

OK here's my first one:

Queen Esther 2003 Syrah (kosher):
"Opens with a light earthy nose. This is a lean, acidic and clean syrah - totally unlike the standard new world stuff, and also very different from French syrah. Red cherries and leather with some licorice dominate - its got a very tart finish and is quite earthy. Far too lean and acidic for me."

Its a kosher wine - so its been pasturized, but i think its flash treated, so its not too affected. My local store has bugger all selection - this literally was their only syrah. It really wasnt for me, but i'm glad i tried it - as i think its my first austrian syrah. Will follow up with one more to my style.

Reply by fibo86, Jan 12, 2009.

Number 3: Scarborough Shiraz 2002 Hunter Valley (NSW) Australia

Bursting out of the bottle before the top's off

Colour/ Clarity
Dark Crimson-Brick hue/ Bright

Strong pepper, eucalytus and honey lollies (mild), stewed plums, forest floor,violets, cinnamon and vanilla

This wine wasn't the beast the bouquet made it out to be.
Great spice and berries, with a bit of an earthy characteristic....Typical Hunter wine.
Well intergrated tanins and quite juicy although could still have some sleep time in the cellar.

Now wish I had a second bottle to try next year

Reply by ttutony, Jan 12, 2009.

Here are a couple I tried this weekend:

2004 Goats do Roam Goat-Roti (South Africa):
I decided to try this wine after being pleasantly surprised by the Goats do Roam flagship wine. Deep red color in the glass. This wine showed dark fruit on the nose along with aromas of earth, cedar, and tobacco. Robust mouthfeel bursting with blackberry and black currant flavors. White pepper accompanies the fruit on the palate and has a nice warming sensation. Traces of oak as well. Great balance in this wine with nice acidity and firm tannins giving the wine a great feel. Very generous finish goes on for quite a while. Good value for the money, I would definitely recommend this wine for fans of spicy syrah.

2006 Llano Estacado Winery Shiraz (Texas):
Red fruit and berry fruit flavors with light tannins. Just slightly sweet tasting, surprisingly. Not flawed, but not very complex and definitely lacking in the spiciness that I usually enjoy in syrah based wines.

I was really impressed by the "Goat Roti", especially for the price I paid (about $15)

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 12, 2009.

What a great start.

Thanks everyone.

Looks like we're starting with a nice selection

France -2
Chile - 1
Ausria! - 1
Australia -1
South Africa - 1
Texas! - 1

I never would have guessed that this was the way we would start but it sure is perfect for the GLOBAL tasting initiative! Now we have to go off and look for some even more obscure regions!

Keep up the great work folks this is a great read already!

Reply by Philip James, Jan 13, 2009.

I went to Trader Joes last night and grabbed a few wines including a Shiraz / Viognier - those wines always intrigued me. With something like 3-5% Viognier (a light aromatic white) I always wonder just how much it can change a spicy, fat, ethylic red. Will post notes on it this weekend ish.

Reply by vigna uva vino, Jan 13, 2009.

Agustin Cubero UNUS Syrah 2006 Spain

From Bodegas Agustin Cubero in the Calatayud region of Spain comes this VERY dark, VERY opaque, VERY purple wine that is made from 100% Syrah grapes.

On the nose- rich aromas of barnyard, bacon, horse and varnish, and flavors of black currant with a citrus edge, then emerging bursts of chalky violets and roasted peppers.

Reminiscent of a Sicilian Nero D'Avola.

Layered and complex and with a long finish, this one is BIG and RICH and a real bargain for something in the $12 range.

Reply by Mark Angelillo, Jan 13, 2009.

Here we go -- had this over at Clos wine bar the other day:

Bernard Burgaud Côte-Rôtie (2005)

Deep ripe fresh black fruit aromas. Very fresh nose, spiced but quite mellow. The palate is quite tannic, flavors of black licorice, oak and leather -- a classic Rhone Syrah but very clean even given the heavy tannins, they drop off the midpalate quickly revealing a more accessible black fruit wash. Huge oak, leather puckering Syrah. This wine begs for a meal.

Reply by ttutony, Jan 14, 2009.

Here's another to add to the list:

2005 Messina Hof Shiraz Barrel Reserve (Texas):
A nice deep brick red in the glass. On the nose this wine shows berry fruit and wood. On the palate you get the same berries and wood from the nose along with a hint of vanilla and a little spice. Fine tannins. One of the best parts about this wine is the exceptionally smooth mouthfeel. I think that this is a well made wine with nice balance throughout. 3.5 out of 5

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 14, 2009.

Nice job everyone! I've got a Delas Hermitage lined up for Friday! I expect to taste a roster of Syrah over the weekend too!

Reply by ChipDWood, Jan 15, 2009.

Milton Park, Shiraz, 2007 ($9.99)

For south of ten bucks this is a surprisingly nice little wine. It's not going to blow your mind- but it's certainly not a waste, and for the buck it beats out a good chunk of its competition.

Ruby in color, the nose is about what one would expect in the range; tinged with hints of currant & black pepper. Light to medium bodied in mouthfeel and weight, the wine opens up simply (and pleasantly) on the palate displaying (again) currants and pepper, those also polished with a bit of herb on the finish- which is more substantial than 80% of the wines at its price point.

A fairly well-balanced effort that shows pleasantly in the finish. One could do a lot worse. I gave it an 86 on my notes, and would recommend it at that price.

Reply by Eric Guido, Jan 15, 2009.

So I went for Cali because I know the least about it and was very surprised by a bottle I really enjoyed.

Esca, Napa Valley Syrah, 2004

At first whiff you think you're holding a fruit bomb in your glass. Comes across something like a raspberry fruit roll up with herbaceous notes and a hint of oak. However this wine glides across the palette with racy, crisp acidity. Cherry fruit is dominant with a lean spicy backbone. The finish is smooth and long with a bit of a medicinal aftertaste that is far from intrusive. Would buy again.

Reply by solomania9, Jan 15, 2009.

I went looking for some peppery heat so I thought I'd try some Australian Shiraz this evening. It's an Amaroo 2007 Shiraz. It wasn't the knockout I was looking for in terms of spiciness but I did discover a very drinkable well-priced wine. My notes and the link are below. Looking forward to seeing how this Shiraz GTI shakes out!

Amaroo Shiraz (2007)
Meaty fruity nose. A little bit of an acidic zing up front but is muted on the mid-palate. Doesn't blossom into as much heat on the finish as I would have liked but overall very fruity and well-balanced with some nice dry spices. Very approachable and a good value. (3.5 out of 5)

Reply by msippin, Jan 15, 2009.

I also love the Motes Alpha syrah.
It ia a great wine and a great buy from Costco!!

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