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Schreiner's Winers: The Aging Process- Older/Library Wines 5/21/10

Posted by VegasOenophile, May 22, 2010.

As the leader of this group, because it's my birthday weekend and thus I am getting older and because after last month's trip to Napa, it was interesting to taste some older library wines, we chose this event to be for older wines.  The assignment was to get something 10+ years old if red and only 4 to 8 for a white if not a white burgundy.  We set it at people's discretion to spend $20 and up.  A few of the attendees asked me to pick them something up which was fine as I had discovered a "treasure trove" of northern Rhone wines from the mid 90s.

We talked a little bit about the characteristics wines exhibit as they age, then jumped in.  We had three whites.  The first was a 2003 Vereinigte Hospitein Shartzofberger Riesling Auslese .  We then had a wine I had found and decide to experiment with a night before, but thoguht it was bad.  I opened it and the nose had changed, so I brought it.  This was a 2003 Freemark Abbey Rutherford Chardonnay.  One of our members who is still in his "red wine infancy" and prefers whites, brought a very tasty 2005 Lynmar RRV Chardonnay.

We moved into reds with the Northern Rhone wines.  We explored

1995 Bernard Burgaud Cote Rotie

1995 Paul Jaboulet Cornas

1991 Delas Freres Hermitage Cuveé Marquise de la Tourette

1993 Chateau du Fonsalette Cote du Rhone

1998 Neitea Toscana IGT Rosso

1999 Sant'Elena Merlot

I then opened another bottle of 1987 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley
which I has everyone taste and enjoy, then attempted to recreate the food pairing exercise I had at Beringer.  It was a success.  We let everyone finish their sips of this, then moved on to Bordeaux.  We had two.  We tasted

2002 Chateau D'Armailhac

1996 No. 2 du Lafon Rochet

All in all it was an interesting experience getting to taste these wines and as usual, everyone finished up the bottles they most enjoyed.  I can't say there was a winner, but everyone did very much enjoy the Mondavi.  The riesling was also a big hit.  Hmmm, now what to do for June?

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Reply by VegasOenophile, May 22, 2010.

The Mondavi link seems to have not worked properly.  Here is it again. 1987 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley

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Reply by dmcker, May 23, 2010.

So how did you and the others find the Delas Hermitage vs. the Jaboulet Cornas vs. the Burgaud Cote Rotie, as discussed here when you were doing your purchasing?

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Reply by VegasOenophile, May 23, 2010.

The Lees Discount Liquor right near me had some of these in their cellar.  I think they have a few bottles of 94 Jaboulet and perhaps some more of the 91 Delas as well.  I scoured the city checking all the cellars and stores I could and on occasion I find a bargain older wine.  A gamble of course not knowing their storage history, but sometimes it works out!

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Reply by dmcker, May 23, 2010.

Sorry, poor wording on my part. I meant how did you and your associates like them, comparatively speaking...

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Reply by dmcker, May 23, 2010.

BTW, the '94 Jaboulet Aines Cornas is definitely a better vintage than the '95, so if you liked the latter (as your review intimates you did), you should snap it up while the snapping's still good at those good Lees prices....

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Reply by dmcker, May 23, 2010.

Another by the by... you refer to these as 'older' library wines. I don't view these vintages as necessarily being that old yet, at all, though of course it depends on which of these wines, and the condition of the particular bottle.

I have some Paul Jaboulet Aîné Hermitage La Chapelle from '95 and '96 still lying about that I am in no rush to open, since I think they've barely entered their window of best drinkability. My Jaboulet Cornas from that period (including the excellent Domaine de St-Pierre) is all drunk up. As is the Jaboulet St. Joseph Le Grand Pompée, the last of which--a '90 still well within its big, ripe, minty raspberry prime--I drank at the end of last year....

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Reply by Greg Tatar, May 23, 2010.

Yeah, 90s aren't exactly "old" for drinking right now, but they're going to start showing the effects of maturity and those were good wines too.  Good for Vegas for doing this tasting with his friends.

Vegas - I'd definitely take D's advice on picking up the rest of those!

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Reply by VegasOenophile, May 23, 2010.

I may just do that.  I realize they're not exactly "old", but it's again, a very amateur group just learning about wine and most of them haven't even had a wine 8-10 years old and I wanted to go over the differences and aroma/flavor profiles that wines tend to exhibit as they mature.  We also were working with a meager budget as we try to kep it at a $20 per person cost for now.  I have some money coming back as I got charged the $45 price on the 95 Cornas which is the 94 bottle's price.  So maybe I'll just use that credit to get the 94.

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Reply by VegasOenophile, May 23, 2010.

Sorry dmc, I think the group collectively liked the Cornas and Cote Rotie the bext out of the Rhone wines.  The Tuscan was also a big hit.  I didn't really keep track of the winners and losers, as I was barely able to take good notes for myself.


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