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Snooth User: EMark

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Posted by EMark, Apr 17, 2012.

I suppose I enjoy watching stick and ball sports as much as the next guy, and I certainly don't want to be labeled as an anti-capitalist, or any kind of suppressor of free speech, but I do hope that all the stupid ads for the streaming baseball can be deleted from the forum.  If that is possible, feel free to delete this also.  Believe me, my feelings will not be hurt.

Thanks.

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Reply by outthere, Apr 17, 2012.

What's really sad is that your post is almost an hour old and all the spam is still up on the site. The lack of moderation is a major detraction for me when it comes to the Snooth forums.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 17, 2012.

I just cleared everything out while you were typing here outthere, well Chris and I were busy doing it!

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Reply by Chris Carpita, Apr 17, 2012.

Well I just fired a salvo in the war on spam, we'll see how it goes.   New topic posts by untrusted users will no longer be permitted - there is clear messaging that you have to get approval by the community first.  To get approval, you must reply to an existing topic, and your first reply will be shrinkwrapped a bit until a moderator (hand-of-snooth) comes along and approves you.  

While I am concerned about how this might affect first-time visitors to the forum, I don't see any other way to control spam.  I think we've all had enough of this bally-hoo from bangladesh. 

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 18, 2012.

Are you sure you want to do that, Chris? How will newbies introduce themselves? Etc.

Considering the general slowness of activity on the Forum these days you don't really want to turn people away who want to participate.

All that's really required is that someone at Snooth monitor the forums a couple times a day. More often would be better, but at least that. The spam will be obvious. You, Chris, or someone else on your staff when they come into work, and when they leave, should be enough. Editorial monitoring would be even more ideal but Greg seems to be way overworked and often traveling, and there's no way to know who else might be available in that domain of the Snooth empire. So looks like an IT job!  ;-(

I often wonder why there are so many hamhanded overreactions in the States. Air travel nightmares are one of the most egregious examples, but how about shades of grey rather than just black or white? Not dissing you, Chris, at all, and your sincere responses (and efforts behind them) to everything thrown at you on these boards is appreciated, but just asking for some mildly creative thinking rather than trying to make everything succumb to too-stiff early-stage rules (of law, or behavior) when we're in an evolving environment. May not seem ideally 'scalable' but someone on staff can meanwhile spend time working the wrinkles out of your filters, without the need to go all Draconian. I believe Greg once spoke out about the desire or rather aim that Snooth be 'inclusive' rathen than 'exclusionary' when I went a little ape about someone back when who I felt was being too obtuse. He was entirely correct then, and that principle should be applied here, too.

 

 

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Reply by outthere, Apr 18, 2012.

"Are you sure you want to do that, Chris? How will newbies introduce themselves? Etc."

All you really need to do is have a pop up explain that the post will be moderated to protect the continuity of the forum until the person is approved to post regularly. Any reasonable person will understand.

 

 

 
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Reply by Chris Carpita, Apr 18, 2012.

I'm going to make some tweaks to allow an unapproved new post to show up in the stream, but will hide the content to disincentivize link-back spammers, which is really the core issue.  GDP and I (plus interns) will scan the forums for new posts and approve the legit ones.

Re: IT monitoring - not feasible, we're taxed even more than GDP/editorial if you can believe that.  When we have a bigger team we'll be able to take a more hands on approach that allows some more slack. 

 

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 18, 2012.

Monitoring is the key no atter what, I should be able to get on line every few hours. Heck, I'm in  van travelling in Colchagua Chile and I'm able to get intnet access so I can't blame anyone but myself for lack of time int he forums.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 18, 2012.

"Re: IT monitoring - not feasible, we're taxed even more than GDP/editorial if you can believe that.  When we have a bigger team we'll be able to take a more hands on approach that allows some more slack."

Thanks for the quick responses, Chirs and Greg, but as outthere has repeatedly emphasized, it really seems like a matter of proper prioritization! How important is the Forum, anyway?

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 21, 2012.

To me it's important, but obviously so many other things takes precendednt when it comes time to allocate my efforts.

But you folks, the forumites are what makes the forum both special and important. We need to work out some wya to work things. I suggested a single post for newbies, which gets posted then the forumites can approve the poster for additional posting priviledges. We'll find a workable solution, just will take a bit of thinking, and not from a hotle lobby.

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Reply by lakenvelder, Apr 23, 2012.

Actually, I think you all do a great job keeping out spammers. In a site like this it is almost a full time job in itself.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 23, 2012.

Thanks Laken,

I certainly feels like a full time job sometimes!


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