Spirits & Cocktails

Snooth User: NARC714

Rum lover, looking for others, I'm new to Snooth.

Posted by NARC714, Apr 13, 2009.

Hope I am not wasting my time on a wine site.
But, are there any RUM people on board? Specifically, "Neat" drinkers / Non-Mixers.
I am located on Long Island NY and NYC.
Very Recently retired Law Enforcement Officer.
Would like to compare likes/dislikes, sources of product, and just whatever......


Reply by Philip James, Apr 13, 2009.

Narc - this is a good place to ask that sort of question. We're a wine site, but do talk about spirits (and other libations) fairly often. More of a whiskey drinker myself, but, I do remember a very enjoyable evening in the Brandy Library in NYC where I drank some of their rums.

Let me check my notes to see what I tried that night.

Reply by Philip James, Apr 13, 2009.

Pussers Navy Proof

Not bad, and one of the first times I'd drunk rum neat.

Off topic, but am working my way through a bottle of the excellent Hudson Baby Bourbon, by Tuthilltown Spirits, at the moment

Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Apr 13, 2009.

Narc, glad to see you aboard.

I've become increasingly interested in drinking good rums neat after discovering the enormous quality and variety of products beyond the workmanlike Bacardi offerings.

Latest find is Diplomatico Rums from Venezuela - have you seen these?

Also, I must second Philip's recommendation of NYC's Brandy Library. Now that you are retired, head in there on a week night when it isn't too crowded and enjoy a tasting flight of rums. They have almost 100 rums available!

Reply by Degrandcru, Apr 14, 2009.

I have a rum once in a while and I only mix it if its a sort I don´t like (as I can´t stand Bacardi I only drink it with lime and coke as a cuba libre).

My favourite rums that I would never mix:

Flor de Caña, Nicaragua
Brugal, Dominican Republic

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 14, 2009.

I really am no fan of Rum until they have aged into something more akin to Cognac. The Agricoles from Martinique are superb and the Trois Rivieres at age 30 or more have been among my favorites.

Reply by NARC714, Apr 14, 2009.

I have only tried 3 of the Argricoles-
Barbancourt 15yo, and Neisson Reserva- both are good. I did not like Clement White.
I can't find (or afford) Tres Rivieres here, but would like to try it.
If you ever come across Ron Atlantico (A Dominican), you just might change your mind?

Reply by gr, Apr 14, 2009.

Barbancourt, at almost any age, is good stuff. What did you dislike about the Rhum Clément? I've mostly had it in shrub-centric punches, but I liked it plenty straight at last year's Whiskey Fest in Philadelphia.

Reply by NARC714, Apr 15, 2009.

I hear the Barbancourt 5 star is liked by some more than the 15yo.
The Clement,white, just not my style.
I really favor the heavy sweet dak "rummy" tastes of the Molassas based rums.
EG -Zaya, Vizcaya, meyers legend, zacapa.
Hope i can make the rum fest in NYC for 2009.
Just lost my 20yr job. HELP!!

Reply by dmcker, Apr 18, 2009.

I stayed away from rum for a long time, after a near-fatal runin with a bottle of 151 Bacardi and too many cokes back at age 16. Pina coladas in copious volumes all over the tropics were an easy way back to enjoyment, after a suitable interval had elapsed! Now I tend to prefer my rum straight, and often after dinner with a cigar. I like many of the Venezuelan rums I've had, and they were just about all molasses-based. Besides Diplomatico, Santa Teresa has a couple of offerings I like, though their orange rhum is not necessarily my favorite. Unfortunately, destroyed brain cells disallow retrieval of some of the more obscure Venezuelans I've tasted on some very serious nights with some natives from that country... ;-(

Reply by dmcker, Apr 18, 2009.

And I agree with you about the aged Myers offerings from Jamaica, Narc. I find they serve nicely in a hipflask to break out while thighdeep in snow along riverbanks during breaks in upriver trout fishing during the month of March. Heartwarming, even while snow is trickling inside your waders...

Reply by NARC714, Apr 18, 2009.

The two diplomatico's and the Teresa 1796, which are all great, were until the other day my only exposure to Venezuelans. I had been trying to find Ocumere Dark for a while.
I stopped by a store that had it and found it to be pretty nice also.(and about only $20 for a full liter)
While speaking to the owner, he told me of a brand his Venezuelan friend brings along when he visits the USA, called Presidente. He said it's excellent, but not available here at all.
I will resaerch that.
The Guyana rums, (El Dorodos) I find close and just as enjoyable.
I've only gotten into serious Rum collecting in mid 2007, what a bad time to get laid off (last month). It's not a cheap hobby.
I'd was thinking of going to the Miami area to mine out some stuff you just cannot get up here in NY, and ship it back to myself. Thoght it would be fun just getting a list of stores, a garman, and just go "hunting".
This was the advice of Ed Hamilton of the Ministry of Rum site (Top notch site for Rum).
He is the mavan on all things Rum.

Reply by dmcker, Apr 18, 2009.

I met a member of the Santa Teresa proprietor's family a dozen years ago, when they were first trying to get into Japan. We both shared a common friend in a very successful restaurant producer here in Tokyo who is half Venezuelan and half Sicilian (now that's an interesting combination!). I was very kindly gifted cases of the 1796 and orange rhums which were not too painful to get through. I ended up using the orange version in a number of recipes in place of Grand Marnier or Curacao, though it was certainly acceptable sipping by itself. No one complained about Margaritas I made using it, either....

Thanks for the pointer to the Ministry of Rum site, Narc. Hunting sounds fun, and the economy will not stay bad forever. Philip mentioned the Brandy Library above. When the werewithal is there for a short trip to Philly, you might also check out this place:


Reply by gr, Apr 21, 2009.

I hit up Rum Bar shortly after it opened and wasn't exactly blown away (most because of the food; it was the dinner portion of a date), and I haven't ventured back, although I've missed a couple of events there just because I couldn't make it. My bartender friends in PHL seem to approve of it, though. Have you actually been, dmcker, or are you quoting me in some post I've forgotten I made? ;^>

Reply by dmcker, Apr 21, 2009.

I've heard mixed reviews about the place, but the rum offerings were always mentioned positively. I haven't been there, but several acquaintances have been, usually also on dates leading into nights of dancing...

Reply by dwgray, Jun 18, 2009.

Look for any anejo (aged) rum. they will have rested in oak barrels, and will develop various degrees of smoke and loam as does a scotch whiskey or brandy. Rum tends to add caramel and vanilla flavors. Mt. Gay XO, Ron Zacapa 23, and Pyrat XO are good starting rums, all easily available, and relatively affordable.

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