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Snooth User: bsulier

Recommendation for a 2010 red wine to be stored until the recipient turns 21?

Posted by bsulier, May 11, 2010.

My father started the tradition when my nieces and nephew were born.  He did it for my daughter too with a 1981 Cabernet.

Now she is having a child and I'd like to continue the tradition.  I know it's still early for 2010 wines, but I thought I'd get this started. 

Any recommendations for a 2010 red wine that should age WELL for the next 21 years?  We have a proper accommodations for storage, so it should last.

ALL suggestions appreciated

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Reply by gregt, May 11, 2010.

Who knows until the harvest is in?  I'd post this question again in six or seven months, and even then it's kind of early.  You can go on past performance, but that's not always successful either.  But congrats to your daughter!!!

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Reply by outthere, May 11, 2010.

I was thinking the same thing. A 2010 vintage will not be released until 2012 so you will have a while to do your snooping around to find what fits your bill best.

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Reply by bsulier, May 12, 2010.

Thanks- seems you both agree with me - "kind of early"

THANKS - I'll post again in about a year to a year and a half. 

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Reply by Carly Wray, May 12, 2010.

I'm waiting in anticipation right along with you, I love this tradition and am looking to start it in my own family, for my 2010-born nephew. Look me up in a year and a half and let me know what you bought! :)

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Reply by schellbe, May 12, 2010.

We might have some info about southern hemisphere reds by the end of this month. Perhaps a Shiraz from Austalia or South Africa, or a top flight Chilean red. In October, we will know more about northern hemisphere reds.

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Reply by Charles Emilio, May 12, 2010.

Im doing the same thing at the moment for my son from Vintage 2008 and then next year it will be 2009 for my daughter

Will mostly be Barolo, Northern Rhone, Rioja & Australia with a sprinkling of Bordeaux, Burgundy, California & Champgagne.

 

 

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Reply by LaBelleShell, Dec 22, 2010.

Hi - I was married this year and would like to buy a case of red that will age well. Hoping to open a bottle for each 10 year anniv. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm usually a circa €10 bottle of shiraz kinda girl.

Michelle

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Reply by Apple Dionysos, Oct 9, 2012.

Im curious to know the outcome of this post?

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Reply by Mike Madaio, Oct 9, 2012.

Like Charles I am thinking the same for 2008. I think you gotta go old world though unless you are splashing major cash. Even boutique Napa cabs are suspect for that long. Stick to the Bs: Bordeaux, Burgundy, Brunello, Barolo.

And of course Riesling.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 9, 2012.

A birth year thread again, and just in time to check out one region that was left out:  The Northern Rhone.  Some seriously age-worthy Syrah from Cornas, Hermitage and Cote-Rotie, for starters.  And a great vintage there.

If you want to do domestic, I solicited advice here and wound up with Dunn Howell Mountain Cabernet.  Also worth considering Rioja and if you wait for a Gran Reserva, you might only have to hang onto it for a few years, since they won't release it until it's ready to go, in some cases. 

LabellShell, I'm looking forward to that 120th anniversary--one bottle every ten years? Of course, you could find some sherries, ports, and sauternes that could last that long, but maybe you should open a bottle every five, or just buy a half-case. 

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Reply by gregt, Oct 9, 2012.

Don't know if the OP is still interested, but now that we know a bit about 2010, he has plenty of suggestions from regions that a good 2010.

Rioja was excellent, Ribera del Duero too, most of Bordeaux had a really great year and that vintage is tannic and will need time, Rhones both north and south, Napa was kind of cool with some heat spikes but may actually be a really good vintage, a bit farther north it was supposed to be better but I haven't tasted much so don't know.  Those are all known to be ageworthy and the vintage was good for them.

Other places like Piedmont and Germany have had better years. 

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 9, 2012.

Interesting regarding 2010 Germany, I've heard some good things about certain Donnhoff's from the Nahe. Maybe it was a better vintage for them than the Mosel?

2010 Northern Rhone specifically (Hermitage, Cote Rotie, etc.) sounds like another good aging proposition.

Would add 2010 Burgundy to the mix, I know you don't go for it usually Greg, but who knows, maybe this is the year to give it another try?

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Reply by Wai Xin Chan, Oct 10, 2012.

I agree with those who mentioned the storing of B(s) wines, since they are likely to have better ageing capability.

Secondly, while quality of the vintage and wine making for the vintage plays a part, I believe such keeping has more monumental value than quality value.For example, I would gladly buy a bottle of Calon Segur for its heart-shaped label or something from another vineyard because both my spouse and I shared common affection for that label. 

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Reply by MReff, Oct 10, 2012.

I went through this when my son was born four years ago.   (believe that Greg T, Gavin is 4 already).  I purchased the following for him

2008 Ridge Monte Bello at $80.00 per

2008 Chateau Gazin

 

If you are located in the states the Ridge is a no brainer or pick up some Dunn if you can.

 

Cheers

Mike

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Reply by Craig Bilodeau, Oct 10, 2012.

This is a great thread that should be revived each year after we have some knowledge of that year's release.  This would be a great way to cellar the best each year has to offer.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 10, 2012.

Mreff, nice to see you over here.  Soon you get the free day care called public school.  That means more money for wine!  (If only it were so simple.)

Another name that came up when I was looking for '01s and '03s was Togni--a Napa Cab that has a history of aging well and is somewhat reasonable.  Mayacamas was mentioned, too.  I've sat on Ch. Montelena, but not everyone would concur that it has the legs to go that long.  Longest I went was 10+ years, which only gets you halfway.  I've had Mondavi Reserve that was extraordinary at 17+ and I would guess there are some others--Chappellet, Robert Craig, other mountain wines--but some of these lack the track record.  If Coppola really does restore John Daniels's old Inglenook vineyards to full glory, those wines were famous for their ability to survive and age. 

Odd choice, but you have to like the wine:  Petite Sirah from Stags Leap area.  As Larry Walker said somewhere, it survives, question is whether it ages.

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 10, 2012.

Mike, can you score me any 08' Monte Bello? Would gladly pay $120 for one!

Craig, it's a great idea...I wondered if reviving this thread had legs, apparently it does. I'll be in the same position with 2012, though it looks like I may be limited to CA, WA, and hopefully some other regions other than Bordeaux and Burgundy (from what I hear, it's not looking good).

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Reply by MReff, Oct 11, 2012.

JD, I paid $80.00 for my Ridge on a futures offer.  Many places are offering these for around $125 or a little north of this price on WS.

 

Foxall, I never left, hahahahah.  Just super busy.  But I agree any of those producers would be stellar with age.  THis is the reason why I would love to source 70's and 80's Napa Cabernet.  A friend of mine just opened up a 1974 Sterling, which was amazing.

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Reply by gregt, Oct 11, 2012.

Fox - Togni is right up there with Dunn and the old Mayacamas. It's one of the most impenetrable wines around on release. About double the price of Dunn tho. The Tanbark Hill is a bit less.  Montelena used to age wonderfully - we did a tasting of a number back to the 1970s and those, as well as the wines from the 80s, were stellar in some cases. I thought those from the 90's were nice too, but some of the newer ones are questionable. Not sure how long they'd go.  Mayacamas used to be a go-to wine but I'm just not sure about it now.  In a few blind tastings, I've really disliked it.  Maybe it's me tho.

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 11, 2012.

Actually Greg, I was going to mention a similar experience with Mayacamus...to me it didn't show very well at the Snooth LA tasting we had a few months back. Definitely appreciate Mark for bringing it, but it kind of struck me as a "bad trip" of sorts, we agreed that they were grapes that were picked early, and yeah it was lower alcohol and and plenty of acids because of it, but that doesn't make a wine necessarily. Had a lot missing for me, but at least it left me with an impression...so many are forgettable.

Mike, 08' Ridge is definitely hard to get. Had a chance to buy a Mag at around $250+ and decided against, figuring I'd score a deal on a 750, however prices have remained too high and also no local retailers around me seem to have it. Just have to pass sometimes, but happy to hear you did well on the futures, I should really sign up for that, one of the best premium deals in CA from what I understand.

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