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Snooth User: benzito42

Recommend a 1/2 bottle, $80-150

Posted by benzito42, Apr 11, 2011.

I am looking for a great 375ml. Open to many suggestions. I might have some cheese and chocolates with. Just want an amazing wine to remember. I am intrigued to something a little older but it does not have to be. Some possibilities:

Joseph Phelps Insignia 2002, 2007

Rauzan Segla 2005

Calon Segur 2000

Opus One 1996  

Tenuta Dell'Ornellaia Bolgheri Ornellaia 1998


Very important that it is 375ml. 


Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 11, 2011.

From your list I like the Ornellaia, which is drinking beautfully right now, followed by the Calon Segur, which remains quite youthful.

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Apr 11, 2011.

GDP and I always seem to like the same stuff.

OP, just don't lessen the wines with chocolate a/o cheese.  Blech.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Apr 11, 2011.

Obviously you have exquisite taste.

I hope you're treating yourself to something good too.


Reply by dmcker, Apr 11, 2011.

The Calon Segur will seem quite subdued in comparison to, say, the Phelps. The closest thing to a dog in your list (and it isn't really, just overpriced for what it is), is the Opus One.

I'll echo GDD's sentiments. Don't ruin the wine with chocolate. Chocolate *does not* match wine. Cheese, especially if it's baked, and depending on what it is, might. But there are a lot of cheeses that will cross swords with those wines.

Why the 375? Just to drink alone? You can always drink half a bottle one day, stopper it and drink the rest the next. I've never had a 375 that I thought was as good as a 750....

Reply by GregT, Apr 11, 2011.

I agree w GDD and the chocolate too!

Of those, the RS is still really young. It's a really good wine too - if I were to buy Bordeaux, it's one that I'd probably pick up.  I always like it and I like that particular vintage of that wine.  The Phelps is becoming way pricey - it used to be available for about $100 a bottle, it's at least 50% more these days, if not nearly double.  Good wine tho, and tasty whenever you drink it. Unlike the Bordeaux, say, it's not all that tight and tannic in its youth.

I agree w Greg about the Ornellaia.  Had some last week actually. But I think that Opus is good to go too.

Reply by benzito42, Apr 12, 2011.

i need two 375's for a particular reason. i have a jordan 06 sitting on my shelf half full 2 days in so its not about not being able to drink in one sitting. Cheese would generally be from the particular region of where the wine was from and would be thought about for pairing, not cooked, haha. Again the list was just a general starting off point and was hoping for some new thoughts. The Ornellaia 98 i found was $150 per 375, so also a bit more expensive than some of the others listed.

more possibilities:

Rauzlan Segla 00

Gaja Barberesco 2003

Chateau Palmer Margeaux 03

Reply by JonDerry, Apr 12, 2011.

Would have to say Chateau Palmer's worth a look.

Reply by dmcker, Apr 12, 2011.

So is the Gaja. I used to drink a lot of Sperss. Not so much anymore, but I still drink their plain vanilla Barbaresco, as well as the single vineyards, esp. Sori Tildin and Costa Russi, when the mood hits and I can find them. Can be superb wines. You do want them aged, though, for maximum effect.

Then you could always go for Masseto... ;-)

Reply by DawgByte, Apr 12, 2011.

Hestan Vineyard offers their Cab in 375 ml. I have their 07 in that size and it was around $50. Mark Herold is the winemaker (very good).

Reply by benzito42, Apr 14, 2011.

chateau haut-brion 1997

thoughts here? 

Reply by mprice12, Apr 14, 2011.

Loved the haut-brion!! A classic bordeaux!! My rec for the 375 are as follows. 

2005 Staglin

2006/7 Hourglass Cab Franc

2006/7 Shafer One Point Five

06 Ken Wright Cellars Abbot Claim Vineyard

Reply by dmcker, Apr 14, 2011.

Benzito, regarding the Haut Brion, both '98 and '96 are *much* better vintages than the '97.

Haut Brion is one of those wines, IMHO, that is sold by its name rather than the quality of the wine in the bottle. It's better since the late '90s than it was for a lengthy period of time before that, but it still goes for way too high a price for what is poured into the glass then down your gullet. I wouldn't pay much myself for a small format bottle of '97 HB. But some people will because of its quasi-cult status.

A winery owned by the same people and located in its immediate vicinity is La Mission Haut Brion. Over the past 50+ years of vintages, I think La Mission has knocked HBs socks off consistently.

Reply by benzito42, Apr 15, 2011.

05 Vieux Chateau Certan 

03 Montrose

95 La Misson Haut Baron

91, 95 Sperss

89 Pichon Baron


over $150 under $200 

97 Sassicaia

90 Leoville Lascases

1990 Lynch Bages

2005 Chateau Angelus


thoughts here? versus some of my earlier selections.

I really want a big bold wine with lots of history and a wow factor. Bordeaux or Italian ready to drink with a hedonistic mouth watering every sip knock your socks off panty dropper.

Reply by benzito42, Apr 15, 2011.

1989 Mouton Rothchild, $200

this is a bit pricey for me but possible.. remember i am purchasing two 375ml. i should really restrict myself to under $150 each but since i found it might as well throw it into consideration.

Reply by benzito42, Apr 15, 2011.

just found the 1989 Mouton Rothchild for $140

Reply by dmcker, Apr 15, 2011.

Benzito, can I ask the purpose for which you're intending these bottles?

Reply by benzito42, Apr 15, 2011.

an online web cam date, haha.. An on and off relationship due to distance. She has a new found interest in learning about vino and asks me general questions all the time. We have shared some good wines in the past, last was a 06 plumpjack over my birthday in January. I want the chosen bottle to really make a statement and be unforgettable. 

Reply by benzito42, Apr 15, 2011.

i guess i am looking at quassi-cult wines because I have never had something on that level. Wish i could do a lafite, petrus, pingus, amuse bouche, etc. I started learning about wine due to working in manhattan high end restaurants, first industry wine bar 3 years ago, could not even use a wine key. Learning for work has lead to a big interest. In the past I have had plumpjacks, artemis, 2004-2007 clio's (maybe personal favorite), a great Trapiche, Muja's, cos d'estournel, a jordan, to name a few and even a banfi wine tasting. Want to treat myself to something good

Reply by benzito42, Apr 16, 2011.

no thoughts out there? wish wine spectator would approve my login which has taken over a week, hoping they have a more active forum.

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