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Snooth User: dmcker

Quality online wine merchants, most who ship internationally

Posted by dmcker, Mar 15.

Below are some good online wine purveyors I've dealt with very successfully over the years. They have provided well-curated wine selections at good prices, processed purchases well, and shipped efficiently (though not all internationally). I'm throwing their names out with multiple aims in mind:

  1. to see if anyone has good or bad experiences to share about them during the past couple years (when I wasn't using them since I was off gallivanting away from fine wine)
  2. to provide qualified vendor options for anyone looking for them
  3. to see if anyone has other names to recommend that provide good quality offerings, prices and service
Each of the vendors have effectively evolved their own specializations, and with this full list I found myself able to access most of the wine I might want.
 
 
 
USA
 
CA:
ACME (Napa)
Rarewineco  (Sonoma)
Benchmark  (Napa)
BPwine  (Napa)
North Berkeley Wine (Berkeley)
KLWM  (Kermit Lynch, Berkeley)
K&L Wines (Redwood City, etc.)
NVWE (San Francisco)
Wally's (L.A.)
 
OR:
Northwest-Wine (formerly Avalon)
 
NY:
Chambers St. (NYC)
 
IL:
HDH (Chicago)
 
WA:
Garagiste (Seattle)
 
 
 
UK
 

Stone, Vine & Sun 

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Reply by JonDerry, Mar 17.

Very helpful D, thanks for compiling.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Mar 19.

Didn't we do this once before?

 

great start, I'll a few others when I have a bit more time. Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this!

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Reply by dmcker, May 24.

Bumping this thread to see if anyone has any other *qualified* vendors to add...

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Reply by outthere, May 25.

Envoyer Fine Wines is very popular with my SoCal friends.

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 2.

Thanks, OT. Anybody else with places they'd really like to recommend?

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 3.

I'd be interested in anyone who has shipped with JJ Buckley.  They have their offices and warehouse over by the Oakland airport, so I usually just pick up for myself.

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 3.

Some issues with JJ Buckley lately as per various CT discussion threads...

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 3.

"Some issues with JJ Buckley lately as per various CT discussion threads..."

Specifics here, please?!

I tried them a couple of times several years ago and didn't love the experience, but would like to hear more about what's going on recently...

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 3.

See if this link works: JJ Buckley - Another retailer that has lost my business

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Reply by EMark, Jun 3.

Envoyer web site appears to be under maintenance.

The JJ Buckley story is pretty scary.

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Reply by Miro L, Jun 5.

I would recommend Wineist.me :)

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 5.

Was kind of hoping for something a bit more independently curated--this ain't a thread for self-aggrandizing advertisement plugs, Miro....

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 12.

Am transferring this over from a response in another thread:

 

 

REPLY BY WINEOGRE, 2 HOURS AGO.

I use Langtons : www.langtons.com.au for the super premium https://www.langtons.com.au/DeliveryInfo/ wines. 

http://www.auswine.com.au/int_wine_shipping might be worth looking at.

www.danmurphys.com.au  for the cheaper wines and some premium wines

http://www.eastendcellars.com.au/delivery/ is another

http://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/sending-overseas.html  gives international freight rates from Oz.

 

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Reply by Wineogre, Jun 13.

Here are some more Oz online merchants:

http://www.winehouse.com.au/delivery.asp?contentID=59 Ships internationally

http://www.triowine.com.au/shipping.html  Tasmanian wine, ships internationally but not USA
http://www.aussiewinesonline.com/ uses the below US site for Aussie wines
http://www.winelegacy.com/Default.aspx?Source=link : a US site with Aussie wines
http://www.thewinebuyer.com/main.asp?request=search&country=Australia&type=W : another US site with Aussie wines
http://www.citywineshop.net.au/freight.php Ships internationally
http://www.negociantsusa.com/pf_agency.asp?p=93 US site of Australian Company with high end Aussie wines
http://www.princewinestore.com.au/ allegedly ships internationally
http://rathdownecellars.com.au/products/ordering/ ships internationally
http://www.wineculture.com.au/shipping-deliver-rates.html  email for international shipping quote
http://www.solawines.com/CTGY/wineryah.html?gclid=CIul1ueh-L4CFVgRvQodF1QAtA US site
http://www.nicks.com.au/about-us-74.1590 Ships internationally
 
By the look of the freight rates you would need to be buying a case (or more) of premium wine that you have managed to get a good discount on, and then perhaps divide it up with family and friends to share the cost.
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Reply by dmcker, Jun 13.

Wineogre, thanks for expanding your earlier list. Are you able to give us any qualifying info about each (or any) members of it? Preferably based on real marketplace interaction with them, either first- or even second-hand?

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Reply by Wineogre, Jun 14.

Definitely Langtons is your premium, top end wine, reliable shipper. But they can be expensive

I don't have any first  or second hand experience of shipping internationally with these companies.

I like the look of the Trio wine (Tasmanian wine) site. If you like cool climate Pinot Noir, Riesling, Chardonnay, Sparkling wine then some of their mixed dozens (and some Specials) look reasonable value, even after freight to Japan.

Nick's Vintage Direct looks good. You could get a dozen magnums of Yalumba the Signature for about A$110.00 per magnum delivered to Japan (after GST and WET refund ), freight included.

The Prince Wine Store has a good reputation by 3rd hand accounts ( Journalists' reviews)

Wine House best rates to Japan are for 1  and 2 dozen wines (although they will negotiate for 3 dozen up to the legislated maximum of 11 dozen), they have a Penfolds mixed dozen on special for A$650  which is $125 off  (minus your GST and WET refund of $65 to $130 and add your insurance of $10.00), but $240 dollars freight to Japan, or you could put together a dozen of their mixed vintages of the Balnaves Tally Coonawarra Cab Sav for about A$1000 ( -$100 to $200  GST,WET refund  + $15 Insurance+ $240 freight or they have an eclectic mixed Shiraz dozen for A$299 (minus $29.90 to $59.80 GST,WET refund  +$10 Insurance +$240 freight.

The GST and WET tax, as it applies to wine in Australia, and then subtracting it for overseas shipping is very confusing. Basically, if you have an Australian wine that has been produced since GST and WET came in 2000 and it is exported then no WET or GST is charged. 

However if you import an overseas wine into Australia, the Government charge WET tax of 29% on its entry to Australia. GST is then charged once the importer sells the wine in Australia. 

It is enough to drive one to drink!

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 14.

Thanks, Wineogre. Appreciate the further explanation.  :-)

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Reply by Wineogre, Jun 14.

DM,

found an incredibly good deal on shipping to Japan for Sirromet wines $20 flat rate per delivery!

Sirromet is the largest Queensland winery. The fruit comes from the Granite Belt which is 800 to 1,000 metres above seal level. The winery is at Mount Cotton, between Brisbane and the Gold Coast.

http://www.sirromet.com/www/1047/1001127/displayarticle/1001193.html

Lets hope they actually ship some of the good stuff and not just the volume quaffers.

Tyrrells wines won't ship direct to consumers internationally, but have distributors in various locations

http://www.tyrrells.com.au/trade/distributors

In fact many Australian wineries prefer to do business this way, like Langmeil, in the Barossa:

http://www.langmeilwinery.com.au/Distributors/Japan and Leeuwin Estate in Margaret

River http://www.leeuwinestate.com.au/purchase/59-master-category/shop/206-japan.html

Sorry this may not be exactly what you are looking for.

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Reply by Wineogre, Jun 14.

I just found out that Japan has a 15% tax on Aussie wine which is going to be slowly removed over the next 7 years! Australia is the 6th largest exporter of wine to Japan, (Number 1 is France and number 2 is Chile) 

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 14.

If done correctly I'd only have to worry about value-added tax, beyond Aussie purchase and shipping costs. Currently 8% of purchase price (not insurance and freight).

Assume you're talking liquor-license importers. Parallel (private) imports can dodge that depending on the volume. Other approaches Japanese customs can take depending on the route is ¥500/bottle after the first two. Would be trying to dodge that one, too.

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