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Snooth User: Gravner

Port is from Oporto, I.e. Portugal, no?

Posted by Gravner, Jan 6, 2010.

Just perusing this site and looking for some good reviews on Port as it is about 17* outside right now and I'm thinking it may behoove me to pop a cork on some nice aged Tawny or a Vintage Port w/ some age on it and curl up w/ some Camembert / Roquefort / Cheshire etc. But all I see on this site are reviews of Muscats, Aussies - Stickies, and Domestic Fortitied wines. How do you claim to take wine seriously while obviously missing the boat on one of wine world's most historic, venerable and delicious creations? Please - Thought y'all were better than that?


Reply by GregT, Jan 6, 2010.

So post something about it. That's how everything else got put up. There are a lot of people who use this site and who don't know a lot of different wines and I bet they'd appreciate you're input.

Reply by Gravner, Jan 6, 2010.

I'm up to your challenge - Though I will need to go procure a bottle or two from my local friendly wine merchant and then I will do my best to wax poetic on the topic. What's your passion, Greg?

Reply by fibo86, Jan 6, 2010.

Hey bud why don't you try something from one of the well established houses in Portugal like Taylor Fladgate & Yeatman (est 1692 although usually just go under Taylors) they have some pre aged stuff which is Yum including a 10yo and 20yo aged Port great option and don't have to wait the thirty something years for it to mature. Also Quinta do Noval is another and I'm sure they are over there as they are or were distributed by William Grant & sons.
We do, do port in Australia just can no longer be called port so we now have fortified Shiraz etc.
Hope this helps....

Reply by dmcker, Jan 6, 2010.

Here are some past threads on the subjects.

As you can see there has been some discussion here in these (and other) threads, though perhaps not enough, so your input, Gravner, will be more than welcome. Perhaps the amount of discussion about port compared to the rest of wine here, though, is about proportionate to the amount of port consumed compared to the rest of wine. ;-( Pretty much the same case here for coverage of sherry and madeira.

BTW, I just received an offer by email today for 1983 Vintage Dow at $79.95 bottle, $895 case, with reliably good provenance. That is a great deal....

Reply by GregT, Jan 6, 2010.

Gravner - I think Dmucker is right about the proportion of Port vis a vis other wines. I hear you thinking about the cold and a nice glass, but when I think about it, I rarely open one myself. I sell Spanish and Argentine wine and Port, and nowadays also some Italian wine, so it's not like I don't have any Port around but my wife doesn't care for it and actually I don't care for alcohol all that much. I don't drink any Scotch or brandy and while I like the taste of vintage Port, I'll have a glass or two and then I don't want any more alcohol in me and I just think about that bottle sitting there. I'm not going to kill it alone in one night and it won't be getting better over the week.

I think that's part of the problem w Port. It's strange if you think about it because the novice wine drinker is usually attracted to fairly sweet wine and you'd think that Port would be the most popular wine around.

At any rate, one of the upsides of not having a huge following is that Port is one of the great values in the world. You can get an aged Port with 20 or more years on it for the same price as a young one. It's insane. I also got a note today about someone selling some 1983, perhaps the same one that Dmucker got, and it's just crazy. Imagine being offered a 1982 Margaux for $79.95? But you can get one of the great names in Port for that price. The only other value in that league would be sherry.


Reply by Degrandcru, Jan 8, 2010.

Greg, I agree with you on the vintage port, its for a special occasion and if you open one you should have people around that help you drinking the bottle on the same day. But then there is non-vintage port that can be kept open for several weeks.

Personally I haven´t had port for a long while but opened a Ferreira Tawny N.V. last night and had a couple of glasses with walnuts and dried figs. Great match and I certainly will have more Port in the future.

Reply by amour, Jan 9, 2010.

I became a member of LINCOLN's INN and after dinner, PORT is always served.

PORT with STILTON CHEESE (ENGLISH CHEESE) was always fantastic.

I LOVE GRAHAM & SANDEMAN..... a lot.....TRY IT !
IT COST ABOUT $23. USA CURRENCY. My mother and I love it....some of my co-workers love it as well!

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