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Snooth User: William Djubin

Please stop using the term Fine DIning in the USA unless you understand the dance

Posted by William Djubin, Feb 20.

 

*Please Stop using the term Fine Dining in the USA unless you understand the Dance.

-Fine Dining requires both the guest(s) and service professional to work together.

When the dance is performed perfectly, the service and memories are magical.

I suggest Finer Dining as a term for Finer Italian and French service and cuisine.

 

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Reply by outthere, Feb 21.

Harumph! 

 

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Reply by jescobio, Feb 21.

And I thought my Cheese post was snotty.

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Reply by dashell, Feb 21.

Funny responses so far, will check back in a few days for more.

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Reply by EMark, Feb 21.

And exactly where is your restaurant, William?  If I ever walk in I would not want to make a mistake and step on the server's toes during our dance.

Who am I kidding?  With my two left feet, I would never be allowed in the door.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Feb 21.

Emark, did they call you Loopy back in high school for your two left feet?

I could be either edified or offended by the OP if I actually understood it. But I'll definitely call the Fine Dining Police next time I see someone doing the Fine Dining Can Can when it was supposed to be a Foxtrot. 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Feb 21.

Oh, the resto is in Palm Beach, FLA.  Not a bad wine list for Florida, but not exactly Union Square Cafe.

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Reply by dvogler, Feb 21.

God help you if you aren't a fan of Italian.  The prices aren't great. $200 for a 2005 Bertani Amarone?

$12 for a glass of Layer Cake cab?  I thought wine was expensive here in BC.

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Reply by EMark, Feb 21.

The pic is hilarious, Fox.

The short answer to your question is "No."  There is no reason to pursue the long answer.

Oh, DVogler, didn't you understand?  If the prices on your wine list are outrageous, especially for the super sought after labels like Layer Cake, that is ipso facto proof that you are a fine dining establishment.

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Reply by jescobio, Feb 21.

You guys crack me up

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Feb 22.

JESCOBIO, that's my whole reason to live:  To crack people up and drink good grape juice. 

DVogler, you are from Western Canada, right? Not very different from CA, OR, WA, just slightly colder winters.  But Florida is another creature.  People who would not live anywhere but NY (cold winters, hot humid summers, crumbling infrastructure) must get out of the city and warm their bones in Fla, preferably NOT the W. Coast or redneck Riviera (Tampa and Orlando, or up north by Georgia, respectively).  Prices reflect that.  And the water tastes horrible so rum, wine and lite beer fill the void.  My wife's people spend time there, or I would have missed out on the whole anthropological experience.  But if I had to choose, I'd pay the tariff to go to BC over Palm Beach any day.

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Reply by gregt, Feb 22.

And you'd be free of blowhards like the OP.

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Reply by clippingpath, Feb 22.

I do not support drinking.

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Reply by JenniferT, Feb 22.

And I certainly do  :) 

Lol - that's as good a reason as any fox! 

Funny OT - because I was just saying "HA-rumph" as I started scrolling through these comments.

However this guy does have a point in that good attentive, seamless service is hard to find these days. Especially disappointing if I'm splurging a bit a a restaurant - in which case I don't just want great food, but also a great experience. Not so willing to throw down a dance number though...I thought service was more about me as the guest....you know.....serving?   :) 

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Reply by gregt, Feb 22.

Exactly Jen. The OP was just a troll and not a very good one at that.

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Reply by dvogler, Feb 22.

Good conversation came of it though!  Look on the bright side :)  It brings out a different side of us, instead of the well-mannered monotony of welcoming "one-timers" and sensitively helping Mateus lovers to see the light.

Yes Fox...I'm on Vancouver Island.  We actually have the mildest winters in Canada.  Victoria is equidistant between Vancouver and Seattle.  The wine country in BC is the same longitudinally as Washington...similar snowy winters.

I know Florida is heavily populated with obnoxious Quebecers in winter...sounds like heaven!

I often mention that wine is more expensive here versus Washington state...but you really have to know your stuff.  There's several of my cheapies that are basically the same price.  There's TONNES of cheap stuff that we just don't see up here, and lots more Washington and California stuff.  Really, everything is more expensive in Canada, especially Victoria.

Oh, my condolences about the Olympic hockey.  :)

 

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Reply by outthere, Feb 22.

Re: Hockey - Yeah right, I bet you reek of solace.

Learn how to spell already.  ;)

 

Speaking of "Fine Dining", getting ready to head out for this

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Reply by dvogler, Feb 22.

OutThere

POOR YOU!  (I'm very jealous).  Let us know how it was at least!

I really was expressing sympathy about the hockey!  The reality is, Canada is the US' retarded little brother, so we have to have SOMETHING to deride you about.

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Feb 22.

DVogler:  Yep, once in a while someone gets into the crosshairs here.  The rest of the time, it's pretty mild-mannered except when GregT needs to set me straight on something. ;-) In truth, as someone who has met up with most of the regulars here, and some of the irregulars, we're a pretty nice bunch, but perhaps a little more merciless in our teasing in person.  The opposite, in other words, of most places on the internet, although aliases abound here--you don't really think someone named their kid "outthere" almost 50 years ago, do you?

There was another dinner at DCK on Friday with Radio Couteau and the price on that was stunning.  If my wife had been in town, I would have tried my best to talk her into it.  Charlie Palmer also cooks for and co-sponsors Project Zin. I may have to drag OT to that this year because my wife was a little overwhelmed by the crowds this year. I had to settle this week for a drive up to DCV and a few stops along the way to pick up wine on the way home. 

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Reply by outthere, Feb 22.

Charlie was praising Clay Mauritson today as one of the bright young minds in the wine industry. Funny enough Charlie grows Pinot on his property in Healdsburg and Clay vinifies the wine. The label... "Charlie Clay"

The event was fun enough, a half dozen Appi stations along with some wineries. Then the interview and question-answer session with Charlie Palmer follwed by more apps, desserts and more vino.

Wild Boar stuffed with Elk, Elk Sausage and Black Raspberry Sauce

 

Kiwi Cheesecake and a copy of Charlies new Cook Book "Camp Cooking"

 

Papapietro Perry Pinot!

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Reply by dvogler, Feb 22.

Speaking of Healdsburg, I got a 2007 Stonestreet Christopher's today.

Looks like a good time Outthere.  Thanks for the photos...I need food and wine ASAP

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