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Snooth User: Richard Foxall

Pinot Throw Down for West Coast Snoothers 2013

Original post by Richard Foxall, Jul 29, 2013.

So we have some interest in having a West Coast meet-up (or you can call it a throw-down) for Pinot.  Here's my opening proposal:  We'll do it very close to the Oakland Airport, to save those who are traveling in from out of town (like Emark and JonDerry) from having extra travel if they want to fly.  This would give LuchaVino a chance to attend to, or our friends from up in British Columbia.  Or we can go partway and do it in Carmel if folks from down south want to drive.

My suggestion for a time would be around Veteran's Day in case anyone gets that time off.  I'm open to other times as well. I can't do Columbus Day weekend (who gets that off?  Public servants like me... and I plan to be in Napa that weekend) but later in October could work.  I have a couple ideas for the restaurant (we can even do it at my home, but it could be kind of tight). 

Basic structure would be that each couple or participant brings one to two bottles of Pinot.  We should try to have representatives of Santa Rita Hills, Santa Lucia Highlands, RRV, Sonoma Coast "The True," Anderson Valley, Oregon and Burgundy.  All the better if we can get Sta Ynez, Carneros and maybe split the Burgundy into Cote de Beaune and Cote de Nuits.  I can provide the SLH (Roar) and Anderson (Toulouse or Goldeneye) pretty easily, also Sonoma and Burgundy if necessary (I think OT and JD respectively have better holdings in those areas).  I can also step aside on some of those and kick in Carneros or Oregon. 

It would be cool if we could time it for one of GdP's trips, too.

Send me any ideas and please, let me know if you are interested even if I didn't mention you.

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Reply by outthere, Sep 1, 2013.

Don't like sausage-fests eh NG?

Reply by JonDerry, Sep 1, 2013.

At least 4 ladies seem at least probable, looking good NG ; )

Reply by napagirl68, Sep 2, 2013.
Reply by outthere, yesterday at 11:41am.

Don't like sausage-fests eh NG?

But I thought it was taco night?  ;-)

Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 2, 2013.

OT?  You can't bring him anywhere. Luckily, he lives in paradise so we go see him. 

We'll definitely have female representation now that we have LingProf and her friend, plus the lovely Mrs. Emark (aka Peggy, she deserves a name of her own, after all), my wife (her name isn't "wife," but although it's been dropped elsewhere, I never use it on here), so it's going to be reasonably balanced. 

As for proximity to BART, Macarthur is at approximately 40th and Telegraph, and I live about three blocks away, but because the blocks are long and it's not exactly at 40th, we'll call it five blocks.  Five to ten minutes including long waits at the lights.  We can shuttle BART users back and forth, too.  Really, it's quite close, but, although the neighborhood is fine, not the best place to walk--I mean, it is Telegraph. 

NG, bring the SCM and the SLH, but keep in mind that you will be repping for SCM and if one bottle is slightly off or not showing well, an entire appellation could suffer.  (Really, I'm not worried about SLH--I've got backups for days on those.) 

Lingprof, I'll be getting you an assignment along with Emark very soon.  If you have a favorite SCM and want to show sisterhood with NG, that's an option.  But someone has to rep SRH and environs--anyone have anything from Fiddlestix they want to show us?  Melville? Cargasacchi?

JD, you can always duck walk under the house and shanghai that Tortochot in a pinch.

Reply by JonDerry, Sep 2, 2013.

No Tortochot necessary...I'm actually re-thinking my Cote de Beaune committment...if I'm limited to two bottles, leaning towards both as Cote de Nuits. One old, one young.

Reply by EMark, Sep 8, 2013.

I've been incommunicado, lately, but we're still alive, and I am now getting caught up.  The inventory list that I posted, previously, is still accurate, Fox.  I'll be happy to bring whatever you suggest.  

Reply by Lucha Vino, Sep 8, 2013.

Well, it looks like that is the day we are leaving for Guatemala.  Sorry to miss what looks like it is going to be a fabulous event.  Have fun!

Reply by JonDerry, Sep 10, 2013.

Sorry you'll have to miss Lucha...

This event can't come quick enough...have two trade-shows to get through before the date comes, ouch!

Reply by outthere, Sep 12, 2013.

Trying to make some decisions on what I'm going to bring. If I don't decide now some may fall victim to the Ah So in the meantime. I've narrowed it down to 4 and they will all likely come with me. 1 each from the Russian River Valley, Green Valley, Sonoma Coast and Anderson Valley. Sorry Fox, that's the best I can do as I have very little self-control ;)

42 days and counting...

Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 12, 2013.

OT, that's actually perfect.  I was going to suggest to you that your bring two each from RRV and Sonoma Coast. (I was snooping through your inventory to figure out how to extract the best stuff from you and had already decided that you were good for 4 bottles... you saved me some tough decisions. I'll probably go ahead and have NG (assuming she is onboard for real) bring one from one of your regions--maybe a Lioco or something like that--or one from SCM and one from SLH, since she was gung ho to do that.  I'll do a second SLH and a second bottle from one of your regions. 

I messaged GdP and he's on for Beaune, JD has Nuits covered, and I think I can get one northern bottle from Emark and one SRH, so I'll have Lingprof cover the other SRH.  If JenniferT commits (wouldn't that be crazy, someone coming from Canada!), I'll have her cover Oregon; otherwise I have an Iota Pelos-Sandberg that I can advocate for--I've been back to the well on it a few times--and can see if there's anything else from that region that I have missed. 

So, let's take roll:

OT, Emark and Mrs Emark, JD, GDP, and Lingprof and her friend (really looking forward to meeting a new neighbor) are definitely in. (OT, if you can convince your mate, she's always welcome.) If anyone isn't coming from that group, let me know.

NG and JenniferT are maybe, with NG seeming more likely than not.  Please let me know as soon as you can. 

Too bad about Lucha, one of these days I've got to go up and see him. 

Any lurkers who are interested, feel free to speak up.  More duck, more wine, more fun.

As we firm up the last, I'll send out my address, directions, and a list of accommodations for out of towners, plus shipping instructions for anyone who is flying in or just wants to send wine ahead.  (GSO is good within Cali, and the weather should be accommodating.) 

I know I've been off the forums a bit lately, but I have been working on fun things related to this whenever I have a minute--more on those as they develop.  Glad the excitement is high.


Reply by JonDerry, Sep 12, 2013.

Fox...I thought about it and I'm willing to sacrifice my '10 Big Table Farm Resonance Vineyard (you know, the one Jadot bought). Think this would be highly intruiging.

Also if OT's bringing 4 then I gotta bring 4 also!

Besides, it keeps the pressure off other folks ; )

Reply by outthere, Sep 12, 2013.

"Also if OT's bringing 4 then I gotta bring 4 also!"


Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 13, 2013.

JD, that's a generous offer.  I'll take you up on that, but you can reserve the right to change your mind.  We'll backstop with the Iota Pelos-Sandberg Amity Hills that I have or see if Jennifer T is on board.  But I don't think people feel any pressure--correct me if I'm wrong.  I think half the fun is going to be seeing if you can pick out your own wine and how your area compares.  I'm making up some tasting booklets so we don't have the "lost my notes" problem again, and one field will be for "Is this my wine?"

Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 16, 2013.

Okay, went back and looked at Emark's inventory.  I am putting him down for SRH--looks like he has a couple SVDs from '07 or so that would be good wines to advocate for.  An appellation wine would be fine, too--I think that there's a lot to be said for how that reflects the region as opposed to a soil type or some anomalous condition.  I know that they can also be a way to get rid of less than ideal grapes, but good blending can make up for weaknesses, not cause them.  So, put two of those aside, your choice. 

LP, I think we need coverage in either Oregon or potentially the Santa Maria Valley area.  Any preferences?

Reply by outthere, Sep 16, 2013.

Hey Fox, instead of the Huet Le Mont Sec Vouvray as a palate cleanser I am leaning towards that Mag of '99 Mayacamas Chard as it needs to be opened. Hope that's OK with you.


Reply by EMark, Sep 16, 2013.

Oh crap, you called my bluff.  Now I have to find them.

Very good.  I think the two '07s that I have from Sta. Rita Hills will be fun.  

Reply by JenniferT, Sep 18, 2013.

Hi! I've been so busy (lots of work related travel) - I've neglected to post in awhile.

Even sadder - my drinking and tasting regimen has been suffering. In relative terms anyway. (yes, I am fully aware that life is full of more serious things to complain about, lol!)

I'm still a maybe. I'm planning on taking some time off so I don't think work is going to be an issue. However I have just realized that I will actually be in eastern canada (newfoundland) a few days prior. That means I'll be flying quite a distance for our throwdown. Not impossible, but I had planned on a leisurely driving trip earlier. This driving trip would have given me the chance to access more wines en route.

I am hoping bring my other half, but this is looking unlikely due to his work schedule. That's a shame - he's really the biggest reason I started getting so into wine. Of course then wine kind of took on a life of its own, lol! 

Speaking of which - I think I am better qualified for the NW - (Oregon, Washington, BC) - by virtue of access if nothing else. This access is also inherantly limited by the sad truth that I don't have any wines with some cellaring time. This is really the first year I've gotten into wine that doesn't fall into the "drink now" category. I did get some great PN on a recent trip to Oregon at St. Innocent - but it will all need time to age.

I'm going to need some help/suggestions. I'll try to ask some wine people in the NW for advice as well. I'm willing to work to source something interesting. I might be in Washington state next week. I'm also in alberta right now, which usually has a better selection than most stores in british columbia (more relaxed in terms of applicable laws).


Reply by outthere, Sep 18, 2013.

Jennifer, another idea is to buy online and have it shippd to FOX. 

KL Wines has a nice selection of Oregon Pinot from various vintages is another option.

Just an idea for you.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Sep 18, 2013.

Jennifer T: KL just had a really interesting Oregon PN through Insider's Advantage.  If you order it and have them hold it at will call in SF, I will pick it up and save the delivery charge--just put my name in the comments section.  (They know me reasonably well so the name alone will do it, seeing as I'm the only one in their database with that name.)  Wines don't have to be old for this shindig--I'm tossing some 2010s out there because I think they show the vintage and terroir of SLH so well. 

Also, if you feel up to it, I can also pick stuff up at BPWine in Napa, but orders must be fulfilled by October 11, which is the only day I can pick up.  (Yep, I'm going to be in Napa right around the crush. Lucky I have my reservations already.)  Anyone besides me hating the new website? 

Jennifer, those travel plans sound tough, but that would make your participation all the more epic.  right up there with a trip my wife took to China, then met us at SFO so we could fly to DisneyWorld for another meeting (I took the kids to the parks, while my younger daughter had that horrible swine/avian flu).  Keep us informed--I can manage confirmation right up until the date if necessary.

Reply by outthere, Sep 18, 2013.

Hey FOX I have a new Sonoma Coast wine to bring. Probably just to share and expose to everyone. Mike Smith gave me a bottle of his innaugural 2012 Ancillary Cellars Sun Chase Pinot today (Pre-Release). A Cab/Syrah guy making Pinot. Kinda following in the footsteps of his mentor TRB. I think you'll like it.

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