Wine & Travel

Snooth User: Richard Foxall

Pinot Throw Down for West Coast Snoothers 2013

Original post by Richard Foxall, Jul 29, 2013.

So we have some interest in having a West Coast meet-up (or you can call it a throw-down) for Pinot.  Here's my opening proposal:  We'll do it very close to the Oakland Airport, to save those who are traveling in from out of town (like Emark and JonDerry) from having extra travel if they want to fly.  This would give LuchaVino a chance to attend to, or our friends from up in British Columbia.  Or we can go partway and do it in Carmel if folks from down south want to drive.

My suggestion for a time would be around Veteran's Day in case anyone gets that time off.  I'm open to other times as well. I can't do Columbus Day weekend (who gets that off?  Public servants like me... and I plan to be in Napa that weekend) but later in October could work.  I have a couple ideas for the restaurant (we can even do it at my home, but it could be kind of tight). 

Basic structure would be that each couple or participant brings one to two bottles of Pinot.  We should try to have representatives of Santa Rita Hills, Santa Lucia Highlands, RRV, Sonoma Coast "The True," Anderson Valley, Oregon and Burgundy.  All the better if we can get Sta Ynez, Carneros and maybe split the Burgundy into Cote de Beaune and Cote de Nuits.  I can provide the SLH (Roar) and Anderson (Toulouse or Goldeneye) pretty easily, also Sonoma and Burgundy if necessary (I think OT and JD respectively have better holdings in those areas).  I can also step aside on some of those and kick in Carneros or Oregon. 

It would be cool if we could time it for one of GdP's trips, too.

Send me any ideas and please, let me know if you are interested even if I didn't mention you.

prev 1 2 3 4 5  ...  11 next

Replies

110
314
Reply by JenniferT, Aug 2, 2013.

I've definitely found a BC pinot noir that I really like from a winery called Lake Breeze, and we have some Washington PN from a trip we took 1.5 yrs ago. I'll have to look to see what we have, but I know it includes some PN from Lachini (Willamette Valley, OR). It was one of our favorites from that trip.

 

 

559
2447
Reply by EMark, Aug 2, 2013.

I am going to be somewhat mysterious.  Below is a listing of my inventory of Pinot Noir that fits into the proposed price window (which I think is more than reasonable):

  • 2004

    -- SLH, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2005

    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2006

    -- RRV. Single Vineyard
    -- Carneros, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2007

    -- Sta. Rita Hills, Single Vineyard
    -- Anderson Valley
    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
    -- SLH
    -- Sta. Rita Hills, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2009

    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
    -- RRV
    -- RRV, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2010

    -- Santa Barbara County, Single Vineyard
     

It's interesting that all the Sonoma samples I have are from the Russian River Valley.  I guess I'm in a rut, there.  I am very confident in OT's knowledge of the various Sonoma regions.  So, if we cede responsibility for Sonoma selections to him, I am very confident that his choices would be revelatory.   So, if we eliminate the RRVs from my selections we are left with

  • 2004

    -- SLH, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2006

    -- Carneros, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2007

    -- Sta. Rita Hills, Single Vineyard
    -- Anderson Valley
    -- SLH
    -- Sta. Rita Hills, Single Vineyard
     
  • 2010

    -- Santa Barbara County, Single Vineyard

Now, of this set an immediately interesting pair is the two from Sta. Rita Hills--two different wineries, same vintage year, one priced towards the upper end of our target price range, and one towards the lower range.

Also, though, among the shorter list above: 

  • The Single Vineyard bottling from Carneros would be a good one if we decide we would like to have a representative from that area and nobody else has a candidate they might want to bring.
     
  • The 2004 single vineyard bottling from Santa Lucia Highlands would be interesting to compare with the one that Foxall is considering.
     
  • Foxall also speculated whether it would be worthwhile to have a representative from the Santa Ynez Valley.  The 2010 from Santa Barbara County listed above is not from San Ynez.  However, it is pretty darned close. Actually, it's located between Sta. Rita Hills and Santa Maria Valley.

So, heck, this event is over two months away, and I am already getting pretty excited.

And, that Old Vine Zin thing that OT is having sounds out of sight.

41
2832
Reply by outthere, Aug 2, 2013.

I'll be coming solo. I'll bring something from the RRV, Sonoma Coast and Anderson Valley. Save me that cot.

193
198
Reply by lingprof, Aug 3, 2013.

GREAT idea!!   don't know if I can make it, but would love to try.  I don't have anything cellared that would be appropriate, but if I'm able to swing it, maybe I could "bat cleanup".  just let me know what region you're missing and I will try to fill in.  Probably easiest if I can do a recent vintage rather than library, if that's okay.  I can get to lots of decent places (e.g. K&L) from here in LA area so just let me know.  and OAK airport works best for me, bec. I can fly up on southwest.  also casting a vote for the duck tacos.

288
548
Reply by duncan 906, Aug 3, 2013.

This sounds like it could be a good do.Pity it is on the wrong side of the pond

690
1101
Reply by zufrieden, Aug 3, 2013.

November would probably work ... for me at least.  An excellent reason to leave the rain in British Columbia which will be coming down in torrents by Veteran's Day, I can easily imagine.

Let's develop the idea.

41
2832
Reply by outthere, Aug 3, 2013.

It's developed into October 26th Zuf.

690
1101
Reply by zufrieden, Aug 3, 2013.

Well, the price of not reading all the thread quite through.  Still, sounds do-able.

20
2747
Reply by Richard Foxall, Aug 5, 2013.

Okay, things are rolling here.  I've put October 26 in Oakland on the calendar.  I'll start putting together the spreadsheets.  I'll hit up GdP and a couple winemakers that might be able to drop by and shill some wine, if that's acceptable. 

My expectation is that we either do it at my place, in which case we'll do duck tacos and eat standing up, or I will see if I can book a private room at a nearby restaurant.  I'll solicit some menus if we go that route.

So potentially we have OT, Lingprof, Emark and Mrs. Emark, Zuf, JD, JenniferT, me and my wife.  Working on NG and GdP and a couple known lurkers who live in my neighborhood.  There are a couple possible re-activations I will reach out to. 

Don't worry about library v. recent vintage, and thanks for offering to fill in holes, LP.

OT, the deluxe airbed is all yours. After all, I might just be paying back a favor after August 24--check your email.

193
198
Reply by lingprof, Aug 6, 2013.

Sounds good, Foxall.  Keep us posted and thanks for taking the initiative!  Also, I just found out I may be going to Paso Robles the weekend before.  In which case I have some ideas, but could still bring something from whatever other areas you need as well....

75
2615
Reply by JonDerry, Aug 8, 2013.

One thing I wanted to mention is that there's no way I can limit the Burgundy to $55 and below. I'll probably bring one Premier Cru from the Cote de Nuits and another from the Cote de Beaune in the $80+ range. 

Not sure if we've been over Oregon but I have one lonely bottle I can bring if necessary.

 

75
2615
Reply by JonDerry, Aug 8, 2013.

Then again I'm looking at some interesting stuff closer to $60 that I may be able to pull off if its a hard cap we want. Personally, I'd rather not try and stop someone if they want to bring DRC, or the like ; )

41
2832
Reply by outthere, Aug 8, 2013.

What he said ^

Let us bring whatever fits the tasting but don't force anyone to feel like they have to spend more than they are comfortable with. How does that sound?

OK JD, I just freed you up to bring that 90 La Tache

75
2615
Reply by JonDerry, Aug 8, 2013.

Great...I guess I'll have to find a large format or multiple bottles so folks don't fight over it : )

20
2747
Reply by Richard Foxall, Aug 8, 2013.

I'm good with going above the limit--no hard cap.  But no scoffing if someone brings a $25-30 bottle.  We are going to drink them as blind as we can, I think.  I also want it to be a fair fight so that some unapproachable bottle no one will ever have again doesn't convince us that Burgundy or Bakersfield, or Antarctica is unmatchable terroir.  From what I am seeing, most of us are advocating for favorite areas and are going to bring our best representatives. 

Large format DRC?  Very nice of you, JD.

Bottle assignments will be coming a little later.  We have a pretty good stock to choose from so I think people can drink bottles before then without worrying too much.

Any desire to restrict the vintage range?  I think we are being unscientific enough that it isn't very important.  Plus we all know the difference between young and old wine, right? 

559
2447
Reply by EMark, Aug 8, 2013.

From what I am seeing, most of us are advocating for favorite areas and are going to bring our best representatives.

Based on past negative comments that I've made about Pinot Noir, I would be surprised if anybody had any confidence in my opinion or knowlege of "best" Pinot Noir.  :-) 

 

 

 

193
198
Reply by lingprof, Aug 8, 2013.

I love you guys!  I can't wait to taste the Antarctica Single Vineyard 2000, Foxall!!  lol!

Emark, I totally believe in your ability to improvise, even if PN isn't in your wheelhouse.

I'm really, really, really going to seriously try to make this event!!

75
2615
Reply by JonDerry, Aug 8, 2013.

I'll be avoiding Grand Cru Fox...

Also thinking we might need some palate starters (Chardonnay), can send up some of that Liquid Farm as I find myself with a surplus.

41
2832
Reply by outthere, Aug 8, 2013.

Palate cleansers? I can gladly lug a young 2011 Huet Le Mont Sec.

20
2747
Reply by Richard Foxall, Aug 8, 2013.

Whoa, now we are talking about a Huet vertical, totally off topic.  But when it comes to palate cleansing, Chenin has few rivals.

I actually planned to start us out with a couple celebratory Blanc de Noirs.  I think that makes some kind of cosmic sense.  Sadly, I had to reveal my hand on that.

So, we are looking at OT, JD, Emark (I think of him as picky when it comes to PN, so we have high expectations), as pretty committed, Lingprof, NG, JenniferT and Zuf as working hard to make it happen, and I haven't gotten hold of Lucha (he's probably drying out from his trip to France).  Also haven't pinged GdP too seriously, so I have to get on that.  Partners are welcome, and I am working on a PN winemaker who gets the right to shill if he comes. 

We'll definitely get representation for Burgundy (probably Beaune and Nuit), SRH, SLH, SCM (NG is on the hook for that), Sonoma "The True,"  RRV, Anderson Valley, and Oregon (decent chance we can split Willamette Valley into north and south).  Carneros is an option, and I think sparklers from Champagne and the West Coast (Schramsberg makes a terrific BdN at a fair price).  Now, how many ducks do I buy?

Any of our NYC brothers and sisters who happen to be out this way--Eric, Manny, either Greg, MReff, I could go on--or EdWilley from Dallas, feel free to let me know if you have travel plans.  My house is small, but we have packed in 40 for Duck Taco night before. Good glassware and paper plates, eating while standing--it's how we roll in these pre-Craftsman cottages.

prev 1 2 3 4 5  ...  11 next



Continue to the end of the thread to reply
Back to Categories

Top Contributors This Month

324443 Snooth User: outthere
324443outthere
131 posts
1498622 Snooth User: Really Big Al
1498622Really Big Al
123 posts
1413489 Snooth User: dvogler
1413489dvogler
113 posts

Categories

View All




Snooth Media Network