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Snooth User: Richard Foxall

Pinot Throw Down for West Coast Snoothers 2013

Posted by Richard Foxall, Jul 29, 2013.

So we have some interest in having a West Coast meet-up (or you can call it a throw-down) for Pinot.  Here's my opening proposal:  We'll do it very close to the Oakland Airport, to save those who are traveling in from out of town (like Emark and JonDerry) from having extra travel if they want to fly.  This would give LuchaVino a chance to attend to, or our friends from up in British Columbia.  Or we can go partway and do it in Carmel if folks from down south want to drive.

My suggestion for a time would be around Veteran's Day in case anyone gets that time off.  I'm open to other times as well. I can't do Columbus Day weekend (who gets that off?  Public servants like me... and I plan to be in Napa that weekend) but later in October could work.  I have a couple ideas for the restaurant (we can even do it at my home, but it could be kind of tight). 

Basic structure would be that each couple or participant brings one to two bottles of Pinot.  We should try to have representatives of Santa Rita Hills, Santa Lucia Highlands, RRV, Sonoma Coast "The True," Anderson Valley, Oregon and Burgundy.  All the better if we can get Sta Ynez, Carneros and maybe split the Burgundy into Cote de Beaune and Cote de Nuits.  I can provide the SLH (Roar) and Anderson (Toulouse or Goldeneye) pretty easily, also Sonoma and Burgundy if necessary (I think OT and JD respectively have better holdings in those areas).  I can also step aside on some of those and kick in Carneros or Oregon. 

It would be cool if we could time it for one of GdP's trips, too.

Send me any ideas and please, let me know if you are interested even if I didn't mention you.

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Reply by JenniferT, Jul 29, 2013.

Oooo....so tempting...I'd say its 50/50 that I'd either be at work in Alberta or spending time with family in Nfld in October. 

That said, I'll stay tuned - I'd love to join in, and hopefully I can bring along my other half. I'd be fine with going anywhere between here and S. California, so I'm quite flexible wrt location.

 

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Reply by EMark, Jul 30, 2013.

I'll be honest, Fox, the Monterey area is much more attractive.  However, that is a totally egocentric response.  I can see that we might be able to cast a wider net by chosing an OAK location.

Late October works better for us.  We have travel plans for Nov. 6-11 and Nov. 20-25 that are, pretty much, inviolable.  Do not tret, though.  If the group's plan cannot accommodate our schedule, go for it, and we'll try harder for the next one

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jul 30, 2013.

October 25 sounds good to me.  And Oakland (or nearby) seems to be the most convenient for the greatest number--definitely means some of us can put another bottle in the kitty instead of paying for a hotel. But, please, NG, JD, OT, Lucha, GdP, weigh in and we will try to accommodate the most.

One thought of mine was to just make it into Duck Taco night and do it at my house.

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Reply by outthere, Jul 30, 2013.

Uh, that's a Friday. No worky on a work day.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jul 30, 2013.

Oops. Looked over the shoulder at the big calendar.  That should be Oct. 26th.  Thanks for catching that.

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Reply by JonDerry, Jul 30, 2013.

Will try to make 10/26 work...

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Reply by EMark, Jul 30, 2013.

I'm pretty sure 10/26 can work  for us inlanders.

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Reply by Newport5, Jul 31, 2013.

How about the Central Coast so we can get up there and people can come down. Paso is a great place for a Pinot off! Love Pinots

 

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Reply by JenniferT, Aug 1, 2013.

I'm going to refrain from voting due to the distinct possibility I will be away for work or on the east coast....but I would be willing to go almost anywhere if I can work it out timing wise.

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Reply by EMark, Aug 1, 2013.

I mentioned the duck taco thing to Mrs. EMark, and she was pretty excited.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Aug 1, 2013.

My father had an expression:  Centrally located and convenient to nothing.  Referred to working in Wichita, KS, but was used at other times.  That was, I think, the point that JD made earlier.  Carmel was on the table at one point, but there's some sense in doing it closer to an airport if folks like to travel that way.  That said, anyone who wants to organize an event on the "Central Coast" is welcome to do so...or a separate event in LA/Orange County.  Central Coast is about as specific as saying "France's Atlantic Coast," since the "Central Coast"  appellation is about 245 miles long.  Also, not too convenient if I can pull Lucha into this or even, heaven forbid, the Grand Pasha himself, GdP.  I'm open to suggestions, but weight will be given for locating any event I plan to people who have made it to dinners/tastings before.  (Oh, to be in the compact and Snoothful tri-state area!) Also, duck tacos only happens if I host in Oakland.  And you have not lived till you have had duck tacos and insanely great PN.

Also, purpose is to bring bottles of our own from different regions, so being in a PN region isn't vital.  Another advantage to having it in NorCal is I might be able to get a PN winemaker to come... more on that later.  And we can do rounds at the EBVA wineries.  (That's East Bay Vintners Alliance.)

Did I mention I own 30 pinot glasses and don't charge corkage? 

To that end, I propose a guideline (quite broad) that each drinker (or couple) bring two bottles.  Price can be anywhere from $25 to $55 retail--if you bought it at discount, it still has to be at or above the $25 floor unless it had an original retail over $45 and actually sold some bottles at that price.  (This would rule out Dois Irmaos, to the relief of fans of Oregon PN.)  I make the guideline broad because there's perfectly good $25 PN (albeit not tons of really great stuff) and no one should feel snubbed because they like something that costs less than $30.  I made the top end $55 because that's pretty much what all my SLH wines cost right now, and I hope someone will bring something similar.

Again, that's a suggestion for how we might do it--give me your feedback, please.

Second thing I will want to know before we finalize things is what holdings you have that you are willing to offer up.  For instance, I have excellent holdings in SLH (you're going to taste Roar SVDs, people), and good holdings in RRV, Sonoma Coast, Anderson Valley, and some in Burg and Oregon.  OT will doubtless crush my Sonoma Coast and RRV holdings, and JD has SRH, Oregon and Burg holdings--his Burgs offer more choice than mine, but we could also split that into Beaune and Nuits. Emark probably duplicates a bit of the SRH and maybe some Burg.  So I can enter those into a spreadsheet (if you've got CT and want to give me your handle, that's really helpful) and give folks a general idea of what we need.  OT, for instance, is likely to be on Sonoma Coast while I am a lock for SLH.  The more folks we have, the more we can break down the regions--Dundee v. Amity in Oregon, e.g.

Now alerting NG on the batphone... she'll bring the Santa Cruz Mountains, I bet.

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Reply by outthere, Aug 1, 2013.

Lots of options here. Some of the exceed your pricing range but WTF, "go big or go home" right? You do have a cot set aside for me though. Don't you? ;)

RRV

  • 2008 Holdredge "11"
  • 2011 Holdredge "Rolling Thunder"
  • 2011 Holdredge "Shaken Not Stirred"
  • 2006 Rhys Alesia Green Valley
  • 2008 Williams-Selyem Allen 
  • 2009 Sandler Keefer Ranch
  • 2009 Gracianna Bacigalupi
  • 2011 Gracianna Bacigalupi

Sonoma Coast

  • 2011 Holdredge "The True"
  • 2009 Rivers-Marie Summa Old Vines
  • 2009 Rivers-Marie Silver Eagle
  • 2010 Rivers-Marie Occidental Ridge
  • 2010 Rivers-Marie Silver Egle
  • 2010 Rivers-Marie Sonoma Coast
  • 2010 Wind Gap Sonoma Coast

Anderson Valley /Yorkville Highlands

  • 2009 Copain "Goutte d' Art" - Magnum
  • 2010 Copain Les Voisins
  • 2008 Williams-Selyem Ferrington
  • 2007 Williams-Selyem Weir
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Reply by outthere, Aug 1, 2013.

BTW Fox, I'm doing an Old Vine Offline at my home on Aug 24. Cali Zins and Field Blends. Will have some interesting wines that night if you can pull it off.

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Reply by JonDerry, Aug 1, 2013.

I think I'd represent Burgundy best, so I'll just bring 2 bottles of Burg if I come. 

Also have some Anderson Valley PN if needed, but OT seems to have it covered.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Aug 1, 2013.

Yep, I think we just have OT bring, well, everything.  ;-)  Except the cot, I have that covered.  Shouldn't be too cold on the porch.  We'll see what else shakes out--my strengths are SLH and Anderson right now, although I have some Pernand-Vergelesses 1er that's interesting.  I'll store OT's info away.

OT, let me check on the schedule--I can bring some of Matt Cline's Live Oak to that shindig if you are interested.  Or his Contra Costa Old Vines Field Blend.  Good stuff, reasonably priced, but not the absolute pinnacle of my Zin world. 

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Reply by outthere, Aug 1, 2013.

For comparison sake I'll have 

'81 Joseph Swan Sonoma Zin, '81 Ridge Claret, '73 Fetzer Ricetti Zin and a '77 Montevina Amador County Zin. Looking to source a Carlisle Two Acres as well.  Others will have more good stuff. Hope you can make it!

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Reply by napagirl68, Aug 1, 2013.

Sounds like a good response!  Oct 26 at first glance looks ok, but it is the pre-halloween weekend for those of us with younger children :-).   And yes, if I can make it, I could bring SCM for sure.  I also have some Sonoma Coast, but that seems to be covered by OT. 

Is anyone doing Oregon?  That would be very bad to leave Oregon out.

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Reply by JenniferT, Aug 1, 2013.

IF I can attend, I will try to bring some examples of BC wines, but I haven't had the opportunity to really cellar anything so I will be limited to what I can source/purchase for the event.

I would be coming south through Washington and Oregon, so I'd also have ample opportunity to stop at different wineries and stores to pick up wine en route.

 

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Reply by outthere, Aug 1, 2013.

They make wine in Oregon? ;p

 

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Reply by napagirl68, Aug 2, 2013.

They make wine in Oregon? ;p

Yeah, you West of west Sonoma SNOB! ;-)

 

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