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Snooth User: outthere

Pinot Noir anyone?

Posted by outthere, Mar 1.

Snapped this shot a couple months ago when we were racking some Pinot for Ancillary and Patiné. Check out the shadow, "Fill 'er up!"

 

So what Pinot Noir have you enjoyed lately. What characteristics did you like about it? What food did you pair it with?

Tonight I'm opening a 2011 Copain "Les Voisins" Pinot Noir for a number of reasons.

  1. I haven't tasted it outside the winery
  2. I just sold one to Foxall so I thought I'd prep him with a tasting note.
  3. I have visited the vineyards (Hein, Hennenberg and Abel) so there is some nostalgia attached
  4. My tasting at Joseph Swan left me craving PN

 

The vineyard(s)

 

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Reply by EMark, Mar 1.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 1.

Did I go all crooked again?

 

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Reply by gregt, Mar 1.

Nope.

As far as PN goes, I almost opened one a few months ago just to get rid of it. Then I realized there was no reason to do that and I opened something good instead!

Nice pics though.

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Reply by dvogler, Mar 2.

Ha ha, Greg.  Are you not a Pinot fan?  I'm not either, but my wine buddy has introduced me to a few that I must admit, were pretty darn good starters.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 2.

Come on Greg, seems you liked a few at your blind tasting. It's OK to admit it, we won't hold it against you.

We had Blackened Chicken Caesar Salad with the Copain last night.

Nose stuffed with mushroom and earthy notes. Red cherry and strawberry dominate the juicy red core which displays more weight than you would think for a 13.2 wine. Glycerine like texture with some pine notes late. Reminds me of Rivers Marie Sonoma Coast in that way. Nice dose of acid on the finish. Drained pretty quick over dinner. Nice QPR. Probably best over the next 5 years.
 
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Reply by gregt, Mar 2.

D - outtthere is right, some aren't that bad. In fact, that Copain is one of them and there are some pretty good ones made on the far west Sonoma coast. But I'm starting to think that wherever they can make good Pinot Noir, they can make great Syrah. Imagine if they bulldozed all that stuff in Burgundy and planted Syrah!

Yeah baby!

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Reply by dvogler, Mar 2.

I try not to think about it, but I suspect that at some point, I may become a Pinot aficionado.  It's a blessing to us that there is such variety in wine as there is in music and art.  My taste in all have changed over time.

Geeze I sound like a SAP!  I'm going to open a Mollydooker "The Boxer" and knock myself out!

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Reply by outthere, Mar 2.

 "But I'm starting to think that wherever they can make good Pinot Noir, they can make great Syrah. Imagine if they bulldozed all that stuff in Burgundy and planted Syrah!"

 
 
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Reply by zufrieden, Mar 2.

Too much mediocre PN out there has indeed spoiled some palates.... kind of like those who had bad math teachers in high school... ruined forever.  But it must be admitted there is much out there that is just not worth tasting let alone going to taste.

And there is a certain someone we know and love who might pull out the PN from Clos-de-Beze for a few twigs of Syrah (if taken literally). I suspect that he refers to the lake of A. C. Bourgogne, however, and not the favorite sauce of Napoleon.

;-)

 

Z.

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Reply by duncan 906, Mar 4.

I am a great fan of Burgundy.We had a few bottles at Christmas and I believe it is the ideal wine to accompany a steak

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Reply by gregt, Mar 5.

Yeah but you had them at Christmas with cookies and eggnog and too much food in general. That's about right.

Now for a steak, personally I'd go with any number of different wines - Cab/Merlot-based wines from all over, Malbec, which is what they have for lunch with their steak in Argentina, Syrahs from many continents, Tempranillo-based wine, particularly from Ribera del Duero or Toro, something with Bobal, Monastrell, Sagrantino, Zinfandel, Aglianico, Cab Franc, Nebbiolo, Sangiovese, Xinomavro or Carignan.

Or something else.

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Reply by Ivesreeves, Mar 6.

I'd love to indulge in some Pinot Noir but, alas, I have forsaken that varietal for Lent.  Ask me again in late April.

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Reply by zufrieden, Mar 6.

As a Christened Anglican, I suppose I should give up meat if not PN for Lent (too late now for pouring ashes on my head).  Ah, the heck with it... the Lord made me a weak vessel!

 

Z.

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Reply by outthere, Mar 6.

I'm giving up restraint for Lent. Look out!

 

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Reply by napagirl68, Mar 8.

Just bought this: will let y'all know:

2011 Soliste Pinot Noir Nouveau Monde, Sonoma Coast
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Tasting Notes  

Le Regard / The Look
The purest of ruby clarity and luminosity with vibrant boysenberry crystalline; a Cote de Beaune classic. 
 
Le Nez / The Nose

On the nose, exotic aromatics of intoxicating red fruits (raspberries, wild strawberries, tart red cherries) layered with violets, refined scents of sous-bois (forest floor), exotic spices interlaced with black tea leaves. As the wine evolves in the glass or decanter, the aromatics become more voluptuous with peppery red fruit compote texture, fattening up with vanilla, rose petals and a hint of truffles.
 
Degustation / The Taste
The palate delivers extraordinary energy and verve with a compelling concentration of caramelized red fruits spiked with vanilla and herbal tones. This is a wine of grande finesse, velvety and focused. It carries on with great purity into layers of griottines (wild cherries), black pepper, and cardamom. The mid-palate is laced of earthy sous-bois (forest floor), black tea, anise, and herbal aromatics, all in great balance and harmony. Positively silken in texture but palpably dense in aromatic concentration and tannins, the synergy between the fresh crystalline acidity and abundant yet fine tannins produces great length and finish seldom witnessed.

 

12.9% alc.   74 cases produced   By Allocation  $75.00

 

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 10.

OK, Greg, we know it's hard but you can come out of the closet (or cellar, if that's more appropriate in this context). You're among friends. Tell us about those secret pinot noir bottles that you really, really liked.  ;-)

 

And outthere, great photo at top with the shadow glass raised. You should post that to a photography site...

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Reply by outthere, Mar 10.

Holy crap! A Dmcker sighting! How the heck are you?

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 10.

Hey there, outthere.

Been gallivanting around for a couple of years. Now back to Tokyo, nose to the grindstone, may actually start drinking good wine again (hard to find any decent stuff many of the places I've been, forget about CA wines entirely).  Kept up on the beer and local fermentations or distillations, though. This past weekend did some comparative tasting of Sake from Yamanashi Prefecture, in the mountains to the west of Tokyo. Did have some decent bubbly at a fundraiser for the NPO I'm helping, in Tokyo on Friday night. Someone tried to serve me some unknown-labeled SB supposedly from Bordeaux. Think it must've been a Chinese bottling of bad NZ or Chilean SB, and the counterfeiters didn't even have the sense to blend in any semillon. Surprised the hotel buyer couldn't tell the difference. Quickly went back to the champers...

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Reply by napagirl68, Mar 10.

Dmcker!   Thought you fell off the face of the earth!!   Welcome back.  Hope the gallivanting was at least enjoyable :-)

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 10.

Thanks, NG. Gallivanting was--as it's supposed to be--fun, but did see a number of things that were complex and difficult at times.  Now back here working with an NPO that's helping kids victimized by the triple-whammy of the earthquake, tsunami and power-plant meltdown up north of Tokyo. Over time may grow it to help increase play for all kids in Japan (something sorely lacking these days), but now plenty of need just in Honshu's NorthEast. Fukushima City just yanked out all playsets, wood and metal, because of fallout issues, so kids that were told to stay inside for a couple years now have nowhere to play even when they come outside. A generation is developing weaker in terms not only physical but psychological, emotional and inter-personal (no free play means delayed relationship-development, too). PTSD and other issues galore. Plus the region's economy is being ravaged not only by the need for still-weak infrastructure in the damaged area, but no one is buying agricultural or fishery products from there in the rest of Japan out of nuclear fear. Enhanced-speed hollowing out ongoing.

Enough non-wine talk, I suppose. Still drinking all that CA PN you liked, or other things, too?

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