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Pinor Noir

Posted by Yukari, Oct 3, 2008.

Hello~~~! I'm poor about Wine.... at all! if the person knows about Pinor Noir which is the wine only for red? I've heard from teacher in the class of wine, sometimes which is using for white....
But It's familiar with Red though. Please someone help me advice.


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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 3, 2008.

Hi Yukari.

Pinot Noir is used predominantly for producing red still wine. It is used to produce white sparkling wine and is a frequent component in Champagne. It is rarely used to produce a white still wine though I have had a few examples.

Are you looking for examples of Pinot Noir? There are many to choose from. Finding examples of white, still Pinot Noir is very difficult.

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Reply by John Andrews, Oct 3, 2008.

It ... in very rare cases ... is used for a still white wine too. One example is Coeur Blanc from Domaine Serene in Oregon. It is a still white wine made from Pinot Noir grapes. It is very rare and very good.

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Reply by Yukari, Oct 3, 2008.

That's tempting. I've checked "Coeur Blanc" in net! I'll try it one day as soon as possible~~~.
For me It's curious thing for rarely and very good!!!!
Thank you so much~.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 3, 2008.

You might also take a look at

http://www.snooth.com/wine/cavallot...

And take a peak at the whites of Henri Gouges;

http://www.snooth.com/wines/gouges+...

These actually are made from a mutant strain of Pinot Noir that has lost its coloring!

And one of the latest to prodcue Pinot Noir en Blanc is a small New Zealand producer

http://www.snooth.com/wine/wooing-t...

Happy Hunting!

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Reply by Philip James, Oct 3, 2008.

Yukari - hi there. Pinot Noir is a red grape and so usually makes red wines, but...dont forget Champagne is made with Chardonnay/ Pinot Noir and Pinot Munier. The last two grapes are red, yet can make white wines.

The key is that the color is in the skins only, so if you take the juice out without crushing the skins then you can make white wine with red grapes. This is called "Vin Gris".

hope that helps

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Reply by Yukari, Oct 3, 2008.

Hi~~~ Thank you for your helpful,Philip~~
Actually "Vin Gris" which means in english~~~~ Gray wine?

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Reply by Philip James, Oct 3, 2008.

yes Grey Wine, but like Pinot Gris it doesnt mean grey colored wine... Pinot Gris has greyish colored grapes but makes white wine.

Vin Gris, is often wrongly used for to describe a light rose, but i dont think thats the right usage. It should be a white wine made from red grapes, not just a rose...

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Reply by Yukari, Oct 6, 2008.

I have a question for Pinot Gris though. this grape makes red wine as well? or rose wine?
and I'm wondering why It seems there're lots grapes from Burgundy as origin.

Generally "Pinot Gris" of Bouquet or aroma as follows;?
(mildly floral with lightly lemon-citrus, tangy and light, or quite rich ,round and full bodies) as refer in the website.
or Depending upon the places?


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Reply by John Andrews, Oct 6, 2008.

Yukari ... Pinot Gris (or Pinot Grigio) is a rose colored grape used to make white wine. Generally, it makes light, crisp white wine. Even though the grapes is reddish it is used to make white wine.

People believe it is related to Pinot Noir. Grapes are known to mutate when they are in the proximity of other varietals. According to what I have read it 'originated' in Burgundy but was mostly abandonded there because it did not grow well. However, it thrived in other regions and has survived to this day.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 6, 2008.

Hey Yukari

Pinot Grigio, the Italian name for Pinot Gris, is increasingly being made in a "Ramato" or Rose style. The skins are indeed pale crimson and the juice, when allowed to stay with the skins, turns slightly reddish. Made in this way the wine tends to have an earthier profile with a touch more red fruit to it.

The Northern Italians are turning towards this type of vinification style to capitalize on the current craze for Rose and to produce a different wine from the ubiquitous Pinot Grigio vines that carpet much of the landscape. The touch of tannin in the "Ramato" wines also gives them a bit more of a shelf-life. I've had examples that were three years old and they actually developed intriguing complexity, though I wouldn't recommend keeping them quite so long!

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Reply by John Andrews, Oct 6, 2008.

@Greg ... that is very cool. I didn't know that.

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Reply by Philip James, Oct 6, 2008.

Yeah, I'll be on the look out for an anti Vin Gris - in this case a rose wine made with grapes usually used to make white wines...

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 6, 2008.

Maybe that should be Vinanti-gris!

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Reply by John Andrews, Oct 9, 2008.

Just got my Coeur Blanc. I'll be rating it soon!

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 10, 2008.

Waiting anxiously to hear your impressions!


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