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Obsessed in a barren area........

Posted by MrsDoolin, Nov 24, 2010.

Hello all!! My husband and I enjoy wine. He is really good at picking blind, but then he favors Chiantis and Maison Louis Jadot and has never gone wrong. He can even pick, let's say a Portuguese wine -which we love- and it will be good.

I, on the other hand, love to read about wine and investigate. I don't always do as well. For example, I just wrote out a list from previous Snooth articles about Sauvignon Blanc and Pinot Noir -including rec's from member posts- and went to the better of my area's liquor stores. They have a pretty decent selection. They had NONE of the wines I was interested in.

We live in Southeastern, MA and would love some direction on where there is a really good wine selection.

Thanks all!

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 24, 2010.

I spent my teen years in MA in the late 70s (kind of in the middle of the triangle formed by putting Prov, RI, Boston and Worcester at the corners).  I grew up in California and my family drank wine, so by 15 I thought I knew a little. Nearest town with any culture was Wellesley.  The "package stores" had horrible selection, the restaurants (except the very high end, which probably had overpriced French from the nadir of French winemaking) had poor selection and worse quality.  Of course, in general, Americans were less discriminating about wine then.  In any case, either from the environment or just because that's what 18 year old boys do, I became a beer drinker for a while. The laws back then were unhelpful, as grocery stores could not cater to the lower end at all (couldn't sell wine) and there just wasn't much in the package stores.  Do you get decent wine at restaurants?  You could ask the sommelier at a fave place or even the servers/bartenders.  Probably in Boston proper things are a lot better.  You could see if the stores have an online presence, order, then pick it up when you are ready.  I am back in Northern California, and we are so blessed. 

The person who really can help, imo, is GirlDrinkDrunk, who does wine programs for MA restaurants.  GDD, are you out there?

BTW, an old friend's family owns Truro Winery--not world class, but not bad Chardonnay.  Next time you are out that way, get a bottle and say I sent you. Better than most of what we had access to when I lived out that way.

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Reply by wineydoc, Nov 26, 2010.

if it makes you feel any better, i'm in the 4th largest city in the US, and i'm finding that several of the wines recommended on the site are nowhere to be found for me, either.  is there a section in this site for local recommendations?  i posted a review on Javelina Leap Zinfandel Reserve.  most of you aren't going to be able to find it, because it's made in Cottonwood, AZ, and they don't export.  they're just pricey enough, that our favorite local Phoenix wine store doesn't carry them, either.  so i have to personally drive 2 1/2 hours to Cottonwood to get more (gorgeous drive, up through the desert of AZ, into the Oak Creek and Sedona area, up toward historic and haunted Jerome.  that's the only reason we found them).  that kind of local info would be helpful to toss around, if there was a local section in this site.  hint, hint.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 28, 2010.

Mrs. Doolin, have you tried Yankee Spirits yet?  I haven't been to the Swansea store, but I've heard it's huge and the selection is pretty amazing.  There's another YS in Attleboro, but it's not super large.  I always did my shopping in the Sturbridge store.  They will order things for you, though, but most likely not just a single bottle.  I'd ask them if you decide to swing through.  Or give them a call and ask to speak to someone in the wine department.

Also, MA is a pain in the ass as far as shipping goes.  Lots of great wines don't make it to our state and you can't have them shipped here, either. 

If you post a few of the wines you're especially interested in, I can give you better information about acquiring them.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 28, 2010.

Oh, and Fox, thanks for the shout out.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 29, 2010.

GDD--glad to pay props where they are due.  Glad to see you pick up on it--who else on here could be considered an expert on the MA wine scene?  I wondered myself, as a former Bay Stater, what the deal was these days.  Among many reasons not to live back there for me--although California is setting a horrible example of how to run a state--is the unbelievably restrictive laws on alcohol, as I remember them.  The big argument against letting grocery stores sell wine was that it would hurt the "package store" owners and increase drunkenness generally.  California has really liberal laws about where you can buy wine, beer and spirits (although Oakland limits the number of licenses in a geographic area for other reasons) and the result is that wine became a part of daily life.  Wine stores abound here--k&l is a small chain, but there are many that I refer to here and even a few I missed (WineHouse SF deserves mention) that are one shop, sometimes two.  Sounds like MA still has a way to go.  I don't really recall that it helped with the drunkenness, either, and I certainly did not have trouble getting beer when I was under age. 

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 30, 2010.

Wine can now be sold in grocery stores, but only if it's passed by the individual town.  My town, for instance, allows it, but my parents' doesn't.

We don't have many booze chain stores around here, as MA has another crazy law allowing only three locations of any chain to sell alcohol.  So, only 3 Trader Joe's can sell booze, 3 Costco, etc. for the entire state.  Ridiculous.

I'm still amazed that Cork and Carry passed, as did purchasing on Sunday.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 30, 2010.

Cork and Carry?  I am guessing that means you can take your unfinished restaurant bottle with you, but correct me if I am wrong.  Yikes on the 3 locations rule.  Trader Joe's is not my #1 choice for wine, but having those options does raise the game, and there are good multi-location w&s retailers. 

So it's a little better than it was when I was young, but still pretty grim, from the sound of it.

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Reply by gregt, Dec 1, 2010.

THis is my favorite line:

"He can even pick, let's say a Portuguese wine -which we love- and it will be good."

I don't know why, but it seemed kind of funny.  Anyhow, can you drive out of state?  I know it's a long way to go for a bottle of wine, but if you really can't get things shipped in, it may be worth a drive out to do some sourcing?  We're lucky here in NY but I've found that by looking around a little bit, it's sometimes possible to find interesting wine in unlikely places.  In the Detroit area for example, where I just spent time w family, there actually are some pretty nice stores.  They're not on every block of course, but they exist. One thing that happens in MA is that you'll find a lot of wines that you may not hear of elsewhere.  That's because it's quasi legal to import and sell retail.  I know a few people who have import companies and then their son, brother, sister, cousin nominally owns a few stores.  They'll do a private line or something that gives them a good margin. Not all of those wines are necessarily bad. I don't know MA and defer to GDD but there was a place called the Spirit Shop in Egremont or something like that.  They don't do you any favors on the prices but had a reasonable selection. In Waltham, Gordons was a little bit better on both prices and selection.  Don't know how reasonable those are for you though.  And of course, you can always come to NYC and do some shopping!  Good luck.
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Reply by Richard Foxall, Dec 3, 2010.

GregT:  MA is small enought that you can get to another state from almost anywhere in 45 minutes or less.  Problem is, you are in RI, NH, or VT, unless you live in Western Mass, in which case you drop down to CT or go west to NY.  But you aren't in the better parts of NY and CT for wine, for the most part.  You could probably do well enough by going to NYC that you could justify the trip and a night out. But it's not like being in California, that's for certain.

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Reply by MrsDoolin, Jan 20, 2011.

Hey everyone!! Thank you all for your emails and advice. I haven't been getting emails from Snooth and didn't know I had more replies.

GDD- We haven't been to Yankee Spirits, we have to drive by Sat and should stop in since we have no wine in the house at the moment.

GregT - We aren't too far from RI and ususally stop in NH when we are up there, but it's not that convenient for just a Sat night.

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Reply by hhotdog, Jan 25, 2011.

my in-laws live in MA just south of worcester...some big wine stores opening up soon i hear. when i get more info i will pass them on here.  have to admit that the selectoins in the smaller towns are minimal.  few of the "big" guys but not much more. seems booze and beer is king there...not always a problem!! i have to admit when we visit i bring a nice mixed case with us for the weekend from Ct.!!

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Jan 26, 2011.

That's exactly where I live.  They just opened a Wine Nation in the Millbury plaza.  We go there mostly for the awesome beer selection, since I buy wine wholesale, but the wine selection is great and the prices are low.  The store's been open for almost a year now; your in-laws should check it out (before the blizzard!).

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Reply by MrsDoolin, Jan 26, 2011.

Thanks to GDD, I have a new 'supplier' for my obsession, Yankee Spirits. We are going by there again Saturday -it's on the way to my Aunts- so we might have to go in again.

I agree about beer. I cringe when I go into a store and see people loading up on Bud Light. Bleech.

I do like beer, we love Alexander Keith's from Canada and I enjoy Dogfish Head Punkin Ale. I don't drink much beer anymore, but if I do, I like Sams Summer as well.

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Reply by hhotdog, Jan 26, 2011.

went to the wine nation when it first opened and it was a mess...no prices anywhere and staff and stock in disarray. heard it was getting better since they settled in.  nice place "the shoppes at blackstone valley" 

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Jan 27, 2011.

I was there the day it opened and it WAS a mess.  Not only was it disorganized, the cash resigsters weren't working.  It took us forever to check out.  I can report that the madness has been remedied.

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 27, 2011.

So did you get free beverages that first day, GDD, what with no registers working?

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Jan 28, 2011.

I wish.  ;)

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Reply by ama il vino, Jan 28, 2011.

Hello I also live in the greater Boston area I think I have mentioned prior to this that I shop at BJ's Wholesale Club in Dedham the selection is larger then Costco and the prices are amazing. If you are willing to drive all the way to Yankee I would drive the additional 40 miles to Table and Vine in West Springfield they have the largest selection of wine in all of New England I find it nicer to shop in then Yankee. We have friends who live in VT and it's always a stop coming and going. I thought Wine Nation was horrible will not go back. Falls Wine Co in Newton Falls is nice but over priced.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Jan 28, 2011.

I tried shopping at that BJ's once, but I found the prices so much better at YS, as well as the selection.  There's a lot of supermarket wine at BJ's.

I've been meaning to check out Table and Vine.  My mother says their prices are fairly high, but the crew is knowlegeable.

Hmmm.  What was horrible about WN?  As I admitted, I don't really buy wine there (just beer), but they seem to have a good balance between price and selection.

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Reply by hhotdog, Jan 30, 2011.

will be up the "May"bury way...i mean Millbury way soon GDD and will check out the WN again. 

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