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New Zealand Sauvignon Blancs...

Posted by napagirl68, Dec 13, 2010.

This CA girl tasted a pretty decent NZ sauv blanc at a gallery opening in SF last nite.  It was not an expensive wine... was a Koura Bay Awatere Valley Sauvignon Blanc 2009.  Looked it up... was abt. $12, nothing exceptional.  But it piqued my curiosity...

Any recommendations for a wonderful NZ Sauv Blanc?  This one had lots of citrus, pineapple, tartness and green grassiness.  would appreciate any recommendations... and will be visiting Southern Lattitudes in Carmel, CA .. a wine shop that specializes in wines from those countries south of the equator... have tasted here before and LOOK FORWARD to going back!  Hopefully can find some good NZ sauv blancs...

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Reply by NikkoRaptoulis, Dec 13, 2010.

Cloudy Bay

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 13, 2010.

NG

NZSB are not my favourite drinks and many have become over engineered capsicum herb bombs [new term invented by me 30 secs ago]

There are some quite good examples in the some of the reserve blends particularly some makers are using a bit of oak and creating more of a French style

Vavasour Wines Claudia’s Vineyard Sauvignon Blanc 2007

Villa Maria both standard and reserve

Montana Brancott

Cloudy Bay, especially the T'koko

It would be interesting if you get a chance to try against the Adelaide Hills ones from my part of the World

Nepenthe

Shaw and Smith

Chain of Ponds

Bird in Hand

Like all wine styles there are good makers and well .........!!!

Good Luck

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 13, 2010.

Thank you NikkoRap and SH.. appreciate the feedback...

LOVE your term: "capsicum herb bombs"!!  To be honest, I think that attracted me a bit because it was sooo DIFFERENT from the SBs I've tasted.  I'm sure I would tire of that green-ness after a short while, but what a break from the typical Sonoma/Napa Sauv blancs (which are so great, don't get me wrong).  I think I just like tasting something different on the tongue.. variety IS the spice of life.. I do believe. 

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 13, 2010.

Posting another thread for my visit to Southern Lattitudes...

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Reply by dmcker, Dec 13, 2010.

NG, how much from Graves and the Loire you drinking these days? ;-)

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Dec 13, 2010.

Three I enjoyed recently were

 

2009 Saint Clair Wairau Reserve

2008 Pegasus Bay - blended with 30% Semillon

2009 Nautilus

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Reply by John Andrews, Dec 13, 2010.

A few that I would recommend from my visit earlier this year would be (if you can find them):

One that I tried that I liked but didn't visit is Yealands Estate: http://www.yealands.com/.  

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Reply by rar8888, Dec 13, 2010.

For the money you can't beat Dashwood.  Very crisp, refreshing and full of citrus flavors.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 13, 2010.

Rar

I have not tried the Dashwood range but the Vavasour Claudia's Vineyard from the same maker is an excellent wine [see above]

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Reply by dmcker, Dec 14, 2010.

Would like to see a real discussion of not only the few relatively decent ones, but what makes the mass so horrid, to some of us, anyway...

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 14, 2010.

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As I said in a previous thread the problem with most NZSB is that they are making the same mistake we made in Australia with Chardonnay, Riesling and Shiraz. Trying to milk the style too hard and overproducing and under delivering.

With NZSB, the key varietal component was a very subtle but strong influence of spice particualrly capsicum and grassy flavours.  When in balance and made with some care you get a delightful fruit sweet [not sugar sweet] wine balance with these spice and grassy flavour overtones.  I have heard the descriptor of Cats Pee used but fortunately I have limited exposure to such a wonderful sensory experience and coan't offer a view on this.

What has happened is that they are overcropping, particularly in Marlborough where they have planted out most of the region and are producing very wishy washy wines with no flavour definition which are often over extracted and over worked delivering what I call a Capsicum Spice Bomb which produces a wine that tastes like a whole capsicum juiced or a wine that is so bland that it doubles for dishwater.

What can I say but overcommercialisation!!!

If you get a chance try and get hold of the Vavasour I refer to earlier, a much better example of what they can do when they get the fruit acid tannin balance right and the subtle oak treatment gives it more of a Sancere/Pouilly Fume feel - not exactly but directionally heading toward the more subtle French Style

Hope that helps

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 14, 2010.

Happy Holidays, all,

Wanted to say that I did purchase a handful of SB's... some NZ, some CA.  I did this today, and bought all under $20.

I am now drinking, as I write, the Mt. Nelson 2009 SB from NZ.  I bought it because I am finding that I may have a similar palate to a critic/blogger, Steve Tanzer.   He seems to rate highly many a wine I like.  He rated this one decently.

I do like this!  It may be a bit of a bomb for some, perhaps a bit over the top on that young, green pepper like SH mentioned.. but has balance.  My palate likes this wine:-)  The nose has some grapefruit/yeasty notes. 

I also bought, but have not tasted, Dashwood, Dry Creek Fume Blanc, Trinitas, and Morgan SBs. 

Thank you for all the suggestions, and I will look for them all to try... how fun is that? 

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 14, 2010.

NG

Sounds like more fun than me, couple a quick forum reads whilst scoffing a toasted chicken role, then grab a coffee and go and review an audit file for a grain trading company.

Jealous yes

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 14, 2010.

What the heck is a toasted chicken role????  Is that like a wrap or something, dude?

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 14, 2010.

Oops sorry spelling roll - was really baguette

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 14, 2010.

No spelling mistake.. I did take it for "roll".  Here, what they call a "roll" is a wrap with a tortilla (like a burrito).  Very popular in CA to wrap up chicken, shrimp, etc. in a tortilla with veggies and hummus.

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Reply by Stephen Harvey, Dec 14, 2010.

Roll is a generic term here for any bread that is not standard sliced bread or a wrap.

Us aussies grab a roll, wrap or sandwich when talking bread with filling

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Reply by napagirl68, Dec 17, 2010.

I tasted the Dashwood SB last nite... was even more impressed.  That big grapefruit/yeast nose that I am becoming used to in Sauv Blancs from NZ was still there, but no fruit bomb here!  The taste was citrus at first, quickly melding into a layer of grassiness.   It was less of a "bomb" than the Mt. Nelson, for sure.

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Reply by JonDerry, Dec 17, 2010.

Gonna go with a light on the wallet, South American recommendation here: Neil Ellis - Sauvignon Blanc Groenekloof

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Reply by JonDerry, Dec 17, 2010.

2008.

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