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New Quiz: What wine is this? (TV & movie version)

Posted by dmcker, Oct 13, 2014.

Perhaps we can throw all sorts of wines in here with a mysterious WTF factor, whether photos of the wine, its label, logo, descriptions or what have you. Who knows what they might be? I'll start things out.

From the opening scene of the current episode of a well-received TV show: what is this wine? Does it actually exist? What, if anything, is wrong with this picture?

 

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Reply by outthere, Oct 13, 2014.

Well, Margaux is not an appellation, the producer name never comes before the appellation and never as larger type than the appellation, there is no bottling info, producer adddress or abv on the label. Looks like an American label with a French leaning name.

Faux Margaux

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 13, 2014.

Design looks like a stylized version of a non-wine-expert designer's view of oldskool Burgundy labels.

Name (or half of it that we can see) is nothing I can imagine a French person using,

 

Anything else? (I can see a few others but I don't want to be too greedy)

 

The 'wines' that are used as props in TV series always crack me up...

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Reply by outthere, Oct 13, 2014.

A balloon glass for a Faux Bordeaux with an old school Burg label. 

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 13, 2014.

Good, was wondering who'd catch the glass. Plus you could hear a cork-pull sound even though she was using that stopper....

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 13, 2014.

I hate balloon glasses, first thing I noticed. So we can tell there's no back label? Pretty close anyway, and seems safe to assume. Something seems off with the opener but it's not clicking for me.

What TV show?

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Reply by outthere, Oct 13, 2014.

How about the reflection of the lighting filters on the glass and bottle.

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 13, 2014.

Yes, there are some messed up reflections on that glass.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 13, 2014.

"Well, Margaux is not an appellation,"

Everybody is concerned about the balloon glass and they totally missed OT's outrageous clinker?

Margaux sure as hell is an appellation.  "Margaux is a wine growing commune and Appellation d'origine contrôlée within Haut-Médoc in Bordeaux, centred on the village of Margaux." Just as sure as Howell Mountain is an AVA.

"the producer name never comes before the appellation and never as larger type than the appellation."

True in Burgundy (to the extent the appellation is in bigger type, but the wine name goes above the appellation, with the producer below--usually but not always the same),  not so in Bordeaux.  In other words, completely backward--it's a very modern (New World) appearing label, but it's more Bord than Burg in layout. In general, labeling laws in Bord are more lax, so wineries can make their name more prominent or less.

As you sow snark, so shall ye reap. 

That said, the wine (Buothes?  Boothes? even with my reading glasses, I can't read it well) doesn't appear on this list from WineSearcher. My guess is that they don't want to give anyone free advertising.  Or maybe they have a plan to market a wine under this name as a show tie-in? Worked for a show not even set in wine country.

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 13, 2014.

The design color and motif are more Burgundy-ish or CNdP-ish or perhaps Madiran or even elsewhere, not Bordeaux--as imagined by a designer who doesn't know the wine world well. Obviously the show, which has won Emmies, has great production values and even good scripts, doesn't do a lot of product placement.

'___ des Boothes' in a parody of gothic wine script doesn't even sound French if you know the language and wine-world practice. Wonder what the designer's name might be.  ;-( 

I was hoping someone would point to OT's Burgundy-centric view (and faux pas) when it comes to wines outside Sonoma ;-). Since I've been hammering him a bit lately was hoping someone else would, so thanks for stepping into the breach, Fox. ;-)  ;-)   Obviously first growths don't mention 'Haut-Medoc' on their label, for example. Very different business model in Bordeaux than Burgundy and even controlled display and presentation practices evidence that.

If you want I'll PM you, JD, about the show's name. Don't want any IP lawyers they retain to swoop down on us. Not clear on their common-use practices and don't want to spend a day dealing with them.  ;-(

 

So anybody else have any mystery TV or movie wines to show?

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 13, 2014.

Well done, Fox...that Margaux claim struck me as funny as well but wasn't sure if it was semantics or what.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 14, 2014.

Yeah, the gothic type isn't used in Bordeaux much if at all, more in Burg and the Rhone (although no one is required to use it).  True that first growths don't say Haut Medoc on the label, but that's because they are all entitled to use a smaller appellation designation (mostly Paulliac, but Margaux and Haut Brion are exceptions, and Haut Brion is not in the Haut Medoc).  Margaux could be confusing because it's an appellation and a name.  Like, oh, Rockpile, for one. 

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 14, 2014.

Closest inspiration to Bordeaux is Malescot St. Exupery...also happens to be in Margaux.

 

Also, can someone identify who this is?

 

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Reply by outthere, Oct 14, 2014.

I bow to your wine knowledge. Thats what you get when you ask a California winedrinker about French wines. ;)

 

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Reply by Really Big Al, Oct 14, 2014.

What's wrong with the balloon glass?  It's one of my favorites for cabs.  I do admit to recently using the taller glass for my reds though.

I think she is a winemaker in France.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 14, 2014.

RBA, I noticed in one of your posts there was a photo with a bottle of pinot and a cab glass.  You're doing it backwards. PN goes in glasses with a wider bottom bowl that focus the aromas back at you.  Not exactly a balloon glass.  But actually, I've seen balloon glasses sold as Barolo glasses.

That is, if you buy into the whole "varietal specific stemware" nonsense.  I've seen no actual scientific testing.  Lots of hype about focusing the wine's aromas, or slim flutes to maintain the bubbles in sparkling, but you would really have to do a "blind" tasting where the drinker could not see or feel the stemware.  Of course, the professional should always use the ISO  glass designed by Bormioli.

One night GdP and I were having dinner and specifically decided that, since it was leftovers (food and wine, albeit a Barolo and a Langhe Nebbiolo), we had to drink from tumblers.  Know what?  It was a great meal.  Convivial and calm after 7 days for restaurants or big parties.  The Riedels were on the shelf right behind us and they never moved. 

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 14, 2014.

Have had this conversation a couple of times here before. GdP and I both admitted then that we frequently use Picardie-ish double-rocks-size tumblers for dailies. Frankly the washup is easier, and I've lost way too much stemware over the years. These pyrex-ish tumblers are indestructible plus I've had wine out of them so many times in French households that I haven't thought twice about them for years. Good wine tastes just fine out of them, though unfortunately they don't improve crap wine.  ;-(

 

JD, are you going to introduce us to the person next to those casks?

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Oct 14, 2014.

Exactly what GdP and I were using in Barolo. 

So what does improve crap wine? 

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Reply by outthere, Oct 14, 2014.

So what does improve crap wine?

7-UP, sliced citrus, a heat-on...

 

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Reply by dvogler, Oct 15, 2014.

So what does improve crap wine?

The toilet

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Reply by JonDerry, Oct 15, 2014.

Laurence Feraud of Domaine Pegau

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