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Need help creating a wine list in Ontario Canada.

Posted by meximan2469, Jun 9, 2009.

Hello All this is my first post. I am currently in the process of creating a wine list for a new restaurant opening up in Grand Bend Ontario. Any insight or suggestions people have for wines I should include on my list are welcome and appreciated.

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Reply by John Andrews, Jun 9, 2009.

The most important thing to determine is the focus for the restaurant and the target clientèle. There is no reason to have 20 selections over $100 if the average customer is not a wine drinker.

Assuming you have done that I would recommend that you have three key elements:

- European Wines (French or Italian based on what the style of food you have)
- A few California selections
- Great LOCAL wines

For the local options I'd look to some of the smaller wineries in the area:

- Fielding Estate
- Thirty Bent
- Stratus

Plus you should have some of the standards like:

- Inniskillin
- Peller Estates

I'd stay away from the LCBO mainstays like Jackson Triggs.

Give us some more info on the restaurant and I'm sure we can help you refine the list more. :-)

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Reply by meximan2469, Jun 9, 2009.

Thanks.... we are a casual fine dining restaurant ...with an average dinner entree in the range of $18-34. We are mainly steak and seafood but do have a nice variety of all other meats and vegetatbles. My vision for the menu is a good mix of Ontario wines as well a wine or two from each major wine producing country in the world. I have done a fair amount of research to come up with what I have so far but any insight would definately be appreciated. Here is what I have so far.

House- Pelee Island Cabernet, Casarsa Merlot,Pelee Island Pinot Grigio, L'Epayrie White

Whites of Ontario- Peninsula Ridge- Sauv Blanc, Jackson triggs Chardonnay, Thirty Bench riesling '07, Cattail Creek Serendipity Rose 07

Reds of Ontario- Jackson Triggs Merlot, Inniskillen Pinot Noir, Flat Rock Cellars Red Twisted, Vineland Estates Cabernet Merlot 05

Reds of the World- Wolf Blass Cab Sauv, Bolla Valpolicella, Rosemount Diamond shiraz, Black Rock Red 06, Robert Mondavi Coastal Pinot Noir

White Wines of the World- Barefoot Cellars Pinot Grigio, Wolf Blass Chardonnay, Bonterra Organic Chardonnay, The Beach House Sauv Blanc Semillion

Celebrity Wine- Mike Weir Estates Chardonnay 07, Dan Akroyd Cabernet Shiraz, Wayne Gretzky Estates, Merlot.

Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions.

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 9, 2009.

How large do you want your winelist to be? And how much of an emphasis on North American vs. the-rest-of-the-world? First glance you seem relatively weak on US West Coast, but this may be intentional...

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Reply by meximan2469, Jun 10, 2009.

My idea is to be 50/50 canadian vs rest of the world.......20-30 wines I think would be a good number.

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Reply by cabulous, Jun 10, 2009.

one vote for a great Canadian wine I had a couple years ago - the Peller Estate Chardonnay Sur Lie

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Reply by John Andrews, Jun 10, 2009.

Looks like you have a pretty eclectic selection there. Looks like your 'world focus' is Australia, Italy and California.

I'd consider a Sauv Blanc from New Zealand (Spy Valley), something red from Chile or Argentina (Cono Sur) and something from South Africa (Leopard Frog).

I would also recommend at least two whites and two reds from France. No wine list is complete without selections from France. Louis Jadot should be easily accessible from the LCBO.

Are you only restricted to wines available through the LCBO?


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