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Snooth User: Lu1225

My search for a Red

Posted by Lu1225, Nov 11, 2013.

Hello is there a Red that has a buttery, velvety taste, texture and that is  full bodied?


Reply by duncan 906, Nov 11, 2013.

Buttery is not an adjective I have ever seen used to describe a red wine.It is sometimes applied to chardonnays that have been oaked.I can think of plenty of red wines that are full-bobied however

Reply by EMark, Nov 11, 2013.

I am in agreement with Duncan on your use of the adjective "buttery" to describe a red wine, Lu.  Other than that word your description sounds like what I hear from raves about Pinot Noir-based wines.  Let's try this.  What wines have you tried that have approached your ideal?


Reply by GregT, Nov 11, 2013.

The buttery taste comes from several things. Once wine is fermented, there's a second fermentation, called malolactic fermentation in which the malic acid is converted to lactic acid. Lactic = lactate = milk. So that's one source.

But you can also pick it up from barrels - the oak gets toasted and you get these nice butterscotch flavors.

With whites, sometimes they're aged on the lees and you pick up a bit of it there, although it's not really buttery, it's more a mouthfeel, And yes, you can get it in reds. Some taste like toast and jam. Some Grenache for example, especially from Australia but not only there - from Spain, try the Aquilon or even the cheaper Alto Moncayo. Or Termanthia by the Eguren bros - the new winemakers have dialed back on the buttery notes.

Reply by EMark, Nov 12, 2013.

Very interesting, Greg.  Thanks.  Everything you say is consistent with what I see in white wines, but I had never experienced it nor can I recall a reading such a description characterizing a red wine.  I'll try to be more observant with the next few Spanish Garnachas that I try.  They are easier for me to find than Aussie examples.

Reply by Lu1225, Nov 13, 2013.

Thank you GregT, Thank you all for your input. I'm still in my infancy learning wines. I hope to one day have the knowledge and Versatile palates as you all do

Thank you 

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