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Snooth User: A Oak A

Lets see your AWESOME wine cellar!!

Original post by A Oak A, Jan 28, 2015.

I spearheaded this incredible custom design last month. The ambient temperature in my region is approximately 55 degrees throughout the day; ideal for harnessing the explosive potential lurking within this vast selection. The tight seal on this cellar door makes for the perfect, dank environment. 

I have plans to expand later this year.

 

Okay, enough silliness. Show me a cellar worth being proud of (Or any collection of wine. Lets just have some fun!)

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 1, 2016.

Labels are still damp, but that's not a problem. I'm actually trying to consolidate wines under one roof so the cellar would ideally be about twice as capacious as the one pictured.

There's no way I can drink this all myself. Help would be appreciated!

 

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 1, 2016.

You do BBQs at the house where the cellar is?

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 1, 2016.

Yes. This has happened before.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 1, 2016.

Sounds like a truck going from LI to somewhere up the Hudson River Valley needs a security detail. Where do we sign up?

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 1, 2016.

You could always store your BBQ charcoal near the spots where the worst label dampness occurs. Oldskool passive technique to modulate humidity.

But of course that's not why I asked about the patio events...

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 5, 2016.

Overflow

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Reply by dmcker, Jun 5, 2016.

LOL.

Looks familiar, though you have more space in your overflow 'alcove' than I...

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Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2016.

An embarrassment of riches!

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Reply by outthere, Jun 5, 2016.

"Removed from a professional wine storage facility."

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Reply by dvogler, Jun 6, 2016.

HAHA OT!  You buying wine from GDP anytime soon? ;)

 

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 6, 2016.

Removed from a professional's wine storage facility.  As the Stag's Leap guys know, apostrophes and possessives can make a very big difference. 

Actually, GdPs cellars are, he tells me, both fully underground and stay cool all summer.  I've got a pretty good idea where each one is.  He stored a few bottles that I shipped to NY for a tasting, and they did fine, but that was hardly a long term thing.  JD, GregT and I were all present at one tasting (and GregT has done many more with GdP) where we drank some older bottles and those were fine.  I don't remember any vinegar in the lot.  (Reread my notes, and that held true--wines dated back to 1983.)

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 6, 2016.

I too have a basement cellar for some mid-term (5-7) years and a frig for longer term storage.  Living up here in the northwoods with clay, granite and trees galore we are blessed with cool mother earth.My average yearly temp is 58DF with about 53% - 57% humidity.

We've been here 25 years and I just within the last year finished a 1990 Santa Sofia GIOE Amaone della Valpolocella that was stored in the passive side for 21 of those years.  They were stored in styrofoam winecells that I picked up at a place in Long Beach, Ca.

Those things have lasted forever and I still use them today. I am currently building some racks to house them in a more permanent, aesthetically pleasing rack.

                                                            

Sorry for the lack of proper photos - when my uncle passed away a couple of weeks ago I accidentally left my camera there (Minneapolis) and his house was sealed until his will is found or the executor is appointed and it's released.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 6, 2016.

Sorry about your uncle. 

Those are some storage conditions others (like me) would be envious of, as long as we didn't have to live in a place that's humid in summer and cold in winter. 

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Reply by rckr1951, Jun 6, 2016.

RF - Sorta like me carrying buckets of water.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Jul 10, 2016.

I'm so excited - the wine Closet is compete, the AC unit is running nicely maintaining 55 degrees and I've moved everything in (except the daily drinkers which remain in the small wine fridge in the kitchen.

It will hold about 1000 bottles but I've got a little less than 300 in there now, the vast majority of which are California wines.  Gonna start looking to fill in with some Italian, Spanish and maybe some Bordeaux.

 

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Reply by rckr1951, Jul 10, 2016.

VV - Congratulations!  Looks great - have fun filling it up.

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Reply by dmcker, Jul 10, 2016.

Vino, congrats! Let's see photos when you have bottles organized, too! Or is that everything at the moment? Nice to have that much in the house. My cellar is passive and a 2nd basement in a commercial facility (if unpaid by me since it's a friend's), but it's an hour away on foot or 15~30' (depending on traffic) away by car. Available between 10am and 9pm six days a week, so that's not terrible.

 

"I too have a basement cellar for some mid-term (5-7) years and a frig for longer term storage.  Living up here in the northwoods with clay, granite and trees galore we are blessed with cool mother earth.My average yearly temp is 58DF with about 53% - 57% humidity."

RCKR, almost seems like you have things reversed, as long as you occasionally dump those buckets of water on the cellar floor. Passive is *always* better, as long as it is a proper cellar with no windows or walls above ground that the sun might hit (or where heavy rainwater might collect like at my grandparents' place in Ventura years ago--played hell on the wine boxes and labels, not to mention my hunting guns, though gramps saved those rapidly enough). Most any mechanical wine coolers have issues over time. Some issues over lesser time, depending on the technology employed.

We had a number of threads up on wine cellars early in Snooth's history. Do a search and you'll see some of those issues.

 

Fox, no issues known to many from GDP's cellars, other than some label damp. Anyone here should be envious of his capacity.

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Reply by rckr1951, Jul 10, 2016.

BMCKER -. My -"Sorta like me carrying buckets of water." post was in reference to Richard's thread about carrying water and busting up rocks in his vineyard.  I said No and the thread went on.  When he mentioned in this thread "Those are some storage conditions others (like me) would be envious of, as long as we didn't have to live in a place that's humid in summer and cold in winter. " I"m an age where I don't want live where I'd have to do that.

I guess because I've not had problems in either case it didn't occur to me about problems with mechanical coolers when I wrote the post. I will though as soon as it happens. My passive cellar system is as you described - cool and dark, no uv light at all, no vibration. Why the need for the fridge...those wines are in my tasting room. What with the bad weather we have here power is a problem sporadically so it's tied to our backup generator.  But I can see why you thought that and the thought is appreciated. 

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Reply by dmcker, Jul 10, 2016.

RCKR, thought you might be referencing the lowish relative humidity with your post. GDP has the opposite problem where he is. You can imagine issues in CA.

Do chase down those threads. Were two or three of them where I got into issues with several mechanisms and brands for wine fridges. Really  don't want to regurgitate it all here, but not merely talking about power outages.

I have a wine fridge in my kitchen that holds enough bottles for current drinking. Anything beyond five to six cases is pushing its capacity (hey, I live in a small-by-North-American-standards condo). Turnover's relatively quick, then time to dip into the slightly remote passive cellar again. If you have access to a proper passive cellar, wine fridges are best used that way, IMHO.

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Reply by GregT, Jul 11, 2016.

Vinovino - nice work! And nice cellar! I'm going to look for pics - I have a few pallets of wine in storage, shrink wrapped and I haven't seen them in two and a half years. In the apartment I only have a wine fridge. I love the idea of a cellar like you have. Great job.

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