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Snooth User: A Oak A

Lets see your AWESOME wine cellar!!

Original post by A Oak A, Jan 28, 2015.

I spearheaded this incredible custom design last month. The ambient temperature in my region is approximately 55 degrees throughout the day; ideal for harnessing the explosive potential lurking within this vast selection. The tight seal on this cellar door makes for the perfect, dank environment. 

I have plans to expand later this year.

 

Okay, enough silliness. Show me a cellar worth being proud of (Or any collection of wine. Lets just have some fun!)

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Reply by EMark, Jan 30, 2015.

Wow, pretty close. Peggy's folks live about a half-mile west of the Del Amo mall between Carson and Sepulveda.

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Reply by dvogler, Jan 30, 2015.

Vino,

Nice fridge, but could you turn it 90 degrees (move the card table) and not have so much direct light?  How close to the front of your house is this room?  Just curious, it looks like a den, not too far inside.  I'd be reluctant to have that a dedicated cellar!  Or did you mean part of the room?

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Reply by Really Big Al, Jan 30, 2015.

EM - Yep, that mall was pretty close to us.  Our last residence was a town house in Redondo Beach that we lived in from 1987 until we moved in 1991.

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Reply by dmcker, Jan 31, 2015.

Vino, then there's Dmcker's Law of Private Wine Storage Capacity, which states:

"Barring issues such as force majeure, all wine stocks will immediately grow to max out the capacity of whatever storage unit or space is employed, regardless of budgetary limitations or other irrelevant factors."

You obviously already need another wine cooler. Both flush against back wall, mylar plus drapery over the windows? Yes on the wooden (bamboo) flooring and swapping out of furniture. But be prepared for then needing a third unit before very long at all. Then a fourth. Then... well you get the picture.

Don't you have a cellar? You do live Back East, right? Nothing like CA crawl spaces in the dirt....

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Reply by vin0vin0, Jan 31, 2015.

I've been concerned about the light coming into the room hitting the fridge. The windows are tinted and we had drapes in there until just recently. Plantation shutters are on order and will be here in about 6 weeks so that should help. Also planning on moving the fridge(s) against the other wall which should take them out of the direct sunlight.

I fully understand Dmcker's Law as we just purchased this 200 bottle fridge less than a year ago and as you can see, there isn't much open space left. Unfortunately, this room isn't big enough to turn into a cellar, just a place for a couple fridges, cabinets, shelving and a tasting table with 4-6 chairs.

In our NC neighborhood we don't have basements or cellars and there's some strict Home Owners association rules on what you can and can't do. We do have a crawl space but the CFO has nixed the idea of digging.

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Reply by dvogler, Jan 31, 2015.

Vino, your crawlspace is actually a great spot, but in winter you would have to get in there and put insulation in the vents (assuming there normally are several vents through the foundation to the crawl).  In your region, it probably gets quite cold in the crawlspace in winter.  Mine is ideal as it has a concrete floor and it seldom freezes in Victoria (my crawlspace temp is 55-62 year round.  Access is problematic as the hatch is two layers of plywood and tiled, weighs about 50lbs, unhinged.  The good thing is that it keeps me from wanting to go down there and pilfer bottles I'm trying to let go a few years.  Oh, how deep is your crawl?  Mine's only about 30" from concrete to bottom of floor joists.  Perfect for Christmas decorations, crap I can't part with and wine.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Jan 31, 2015.

DV, crawl space is out, too much temperature variation here in the south. It's not uncommon to see a month or more of 90 deg F in the summer and a couple weeks of freezing temps in the winter. Add to that the fact that my crawl is not concrete, just dirt and is fairly shallow, just enough room to sit up on the one side.

My other option would be to convert our upstairs bonus room. It's plenty big enough and with the kids out on their own rarely used. Just have to deal with running up and down the stairs.  Hmmm, maybe us the bonus for wine storage and the front room for wine drinking, ....

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Reply by dvogler, Jan 31, 2015.

NOW you're thinking VV!

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Reply by A Oak A, Jan 31, 2015.

Come on guys! Bust out the cellar photos!!!

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Reply by Diego Andrés Díaz, Jan 31, 2015.

Some time ago, I posted a picture of my "cellar" in another tread. As big as yours, A Oak A, but not as fancy. 

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Reply by Diego Andrés Díaz, Feb 1, 2015.

Here it is!! http://www.snooth.com/talk/topic/the-home-wine-rack/

I think there are some sweet racks and cellars in that tread.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Mar 13, 2016.

Well the Wine fridge has officially bit the dust after just 2 years in service.  It stopped cooling about this time last year so I called Wine Enthusiast and a repairman was here 2 days later. He added some refrigerant and some stop leak and everything was fine 'til just before Christmas when it stopped cooling again. Called WE again and they said to talk to Costco, which is where I purchased it. Costco said that after the one repair visit didn't work, they'll arrange to come pick it up and give me a FULL refund. Got a contractor coming over Tuesday to ink a deal to convert a 4 ft by 17 ft area into a wine "closet" in our bonus room.  Should hold about 1000 bottles when finished. We'll be starting soon, I'll post pics and updates.

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 13, 2016.

Sounds like a nice upgrade, and especially good with that 'FULL' refund!

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Reply by Really Big Al, Mar 13, 2016.

Good luck with the upgrade effort.

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Reply by Degrandcru, Mar 14, 2016.

Here some pics of my cellar, I posted this before a few years ago. Thats the entrance from the kitchen:

 

And here is the cellar, it holds about 800 bottles, at the moment its not even half filled:

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Reply by Twisted O, Mar 14, 2016.

I'm impressed with your cellar, Degrandcru, How do You keep the temperature on the level?

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Reply by dmcker, Mar 14, 2016.

DGC, these are updated past what you posted in the past in your cellar-creation thread.

Are those proper bricks, or just thin tiles laid for the flooring? And is that gravel under the grid in the middle? Do you pour some liquid there to maintain humidity, or...? In a cellar I shared for several decades we had very porous bricks as flooring and christened it upon completion with several bottles of (lesser) wine dumped across them to be absorbed. Periodically we added to them, intentionally or otherwise (even an occasional offering of a swill to the wine gods). The cellar was passive, entirely underground, and had a very stable temperature of just above 50 degrees F. No drainage grill, though!

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Reply by Degrandcru, Mar 14, 2016.

The cellar is passive, temperature was too high in the beginning as there was no air circulation. I put in some tubes and its OK since then. Temperature is 16 - 18  Celcius (62 - 65F) year round, variation is very slow. Thats good enough for my purposes. I also have an 80 bottle Eurocave upstairs where I keep bottles that I want to store really long term and wine that I want to drink soon (so I don´t have to always go down in the cellar).

Dmcker: What you see arround the rectangle (in the middle) are tiles, in the rectangle there are bricks with holes in them. Under the gravel stones and the bricks is dirt (the natural floor). That helps keeping the temperature and humidity stable. If it gets too dry in the dry season I just poor some water on the natural floor. 

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Reply by Twisted O, Mar 14, 2016.

I like your simple and creative approach.

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Reply by vin0vin0, Apr 13, 2016.

The wine closet project has begun. Here's a before pic and another after the 1st day of de-construction. The wine racks are in my contractors shop.

Going to remove the entertainment center and make one long closet.

A little hard to see but the framing is in, one door on the right side, racks against the back wall, two deep racks on the left and right ends. LED lighting and all the required vapor barriers, insulation and green board to be added along with a cooling unit. In the end, should hold about 1000 bottles.

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