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Snooth User: duncan 906


Posted by duncan 906, Jan 4, 2014.

Has anybody else spotted this


Looks interesting


Reply by EMark, Jan 4, 2014.

Well, I agree that's kind of interesting.  What's the deal with the straw sleeve?  I've never heard of that before.

Interesting, but not compelling.  You won't have to worry about me competing with you on it, Duncan.  ;-)

Reply by jescobio, Jan 4, 2014.

Maybe I'm just naive but online wine auctions scare the crap out of me.  This site for example, looks like my niece put it together.  There is no guarantee that the wine that you are getting is in any way really taken care of in the way described.  Plus its not like buying a case of something directly from a wine site or winery.  Its literally an auction on one particular bottle.  Does anyone have experience in this?  Is anyone on this site actually an online auctioneer?  Really curious.

Reply by duncan 906, Jan 5, 2014.

I have bought over 100 lots from this site with few problems.It works exactly like EBAY

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jan 7, 2014.

That is awesome. Love the bottle. Looks like only two bidders and a relatively low price but we'll have to wait and see what happens at the end of it all.

Reply by duncan 906, Jan 8, 2014.

It is over £500 already! This is for a collector rather than a drinker as it is probably undrinkable anyway

Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 8, 2014.

Bill Koch is buying it so he can have the straw radio carbon dated. I see a lawsuit here.

Reply by fibo86, Jan 8, 2014.

I agree with Foxall, after the fact that Michael Broadbent who worked for Christies (one of the best known auction houses in the world) and was fooled himself with forgeries from Rhodenstock (who has held most of the tastings of wine pre 1900). Plus the gentalman that Foxall was reffering to is suing Rhodenstock, Christies along with Broadbent for selling forgeries.

Conterfit wine has a massive strong hold in UK, so I would be VERY careful of purchasing wine from any auction house without provenance.

Good luck what ever you decide to do but the only way I would look at this is if I could afford to waist  that amount of money?

That is not say you are waisting money but if it all went south could you afford to p>** the money up the wall?

Reply by duncan 906, Jan 9, 2014.

I certainly did not bid.It went for £700

Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 9, 2014.

"The gentleman Foxall is referring to?"  I've never called Bill Koch a gentleman in my life. Readers of earlier posts about Rudi K know why. I'm certainly amused by his dogged pursuit of the injustices perpetrated on the wealthy by unscrupulous wine counterfeiters.  If you google "Bill Koch mistress," you'll find that "gentleman" isn't quite the word for a guy who gets out of a domestic violence case by paying his wife $16million plus child support to accept a divorce or publicly trashes his ex-mistress.  According to a Village Voice story, he's changed his ways, but the Village Voice?  These days?

Reply by zufrieden, Jan 10, 2014.

Hmmm.  Quite a story.  If provenance is/was established, 700 quid seems a relative bargain - even cheap - regardless of the wine's questionable value as a quaffer.  Love the picture, label and bottle.  I assume the reference to carbon dating by Koch was a joke, but then one might want to spend another several hundred guineas just to see...


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