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Posted by seahawk73, Sep 11, 2016.

Hi Folks!

This site was really great several years ago helping me track down Corsican reds here in NYC (I'm in Staten Island.) Many of my friends, and myself included, are interested in very good wines (mostly reds)  at the lowest possible price. There really are many such wines out there if you look hard enough! For example, several years ago a friend of mine, who is a Master of Wine, was asked to name a very good red at  a very good price. He responded: Liberty School (CA) Cabernet Sauvignon. It's data like this that I look for. I'm also looking forward to hearing similar information from all of you. 

Thanks and glad to be aboard!



Reply by Really Big Al, Sep 11, 2016.

Well, please tell us about some of the Finger Lake wines from New York.  I have a few friends that really enjoy white wines from that region, although my wife and I are mostly red wine drinkers.  I have not heard much about Corsican wines (south of France, right?) so please provide more information about that too.

Reply by EMark, Sep 11, 2016.

Welcome Seahawk.

Boy, Liberty School is a name from the past.  My recollection (may or may not be correct) is that Liberty School was a second label for a fairly well-know, and well-respected, Napa Valley winery.  It may have been Caymus.  Whoever it was sold the brand years (probably, more like decades) ago.

Lately, I have my own favorite low-dollar red wine:  Lyeth 2013 Sonoma County Meritage--$10 at Trader Joe's.  I'd be interested in your opinion or your friends opinion, if you can find it.

Reply by seahawk73, Sep 13, 2016.

Thank You, EMARK! I last tried Lyeth several years ago and liked it. Another outstanding CA meritage well worth trying is Lock & Key. It ranges from $12 to $17.

REALLY BIG AL - The story of Corsican wine is pretty interesting. It is a French island between Sardinia and northeastern Italy. As Corsica is part of France, but the people are racially Italian, I felt that both their cuisine and wine might be a nice fusion of French and Italian. The hard to find wine is worthy trying, just don't go crazy trying to find them.

The NY Finger Lakes produce some really nice wines. The wineries I'm most familiar with that offer modestly priced ones are Hunt Country and Knapp.

Three wonderful wine regions that I've actually visited with my college alumni group are Hudson Valley and North Fork of Long Island in NY, and Lehigh Valley in PA. I would like to share some info on them with you in a separate message.



Reply by GregT, Sep 13, 2016.

Liberty School is Hope Family. They're from Paso Robles and have several labels - Liberty School, Austin Hope, Treana, Candor, and Troublemaker. Liberty School is probably the best of the lot, based on tastings a long time ago.

But you can probably do better. There are some threads on inexpensive wines.

If you're on SI, Mission Fine Wines sometimes has some pretty good deals on off and older vintages.

Reply by seahawk73, Sep 14, 2016.

Not too keen on Mission and their prices, Greg. Milano's has always been the gold standard in S.I. I recently purchased a bottle of Egri Bikaver (Bull's Blood of Eger), Hungary's longtime flagship red. It sems that the quality is still pretty much the same as the first time I bought it around 40 years ago. Well worth it @ $8 a crack. Not so with Leese-Fitch 2013 (Napa) Cabernet Sauvignon. I'd been looking to try this bottle since I saw The Tasting Panel of give it a 90 rating. I found it @ Milano's @ $12, but was I ever disappointed! It isn't  as good as some reds at half the price. I'm always looking to find that quality/price threshold, so I had previously bought a Crane Lake (CA) Cabernet Sauvignon @$5. It wasn't great, but at least it was "drinkable" - More so than the Leese-Fitch, and less than half the price. 




Reply by Really Big Al, Sep 14, 2016.

Thanks for the update with regard to the Finger Lakes region.  

When I want a decent tasting wine for a low price, I look for the Spanish wines in the wine shop.  I haven't had good luck with Trader Joe's lately.  I tasted this $6.99 Trader Joe special a few nights ago and it was horrible.  My wife tasted it and agreed.  I poured the remaining 3/4 of the bottle down the sink.  Even in retirement, I don't have time for crap wine.

Reply by rckr1951, Sep 14, 2016.

SEAHAWK73 - There must be dozens and dozens of good wines in $12-$20 range in your area.  I could populate a list if you'd like - but I would think that a decent retailer could give you some recommendations that should work. 

The LaMasa, Tomaresca, Banfi Centine Rosso and the Marema, all from Italy are very, very good QPR wines just off the top of my head. All are around $20 or much less. There's plenty more where those come from in my cellar.

Reply by seahawk73, Sep 14, 2016.

RCKR, Thanks! But you did give me an idea. I've never actually developed my own list of these types of wines I mentioned. It would be several pages long and growing, as the fun part is always discovering new, different ones. Another thing I really like to do is discover American versions of the more unusual European varietals - like sangiovese, tempranillo, barbera, gruner veltliner, lemberger, etc. 

BIG AL - Trader Joe's over here cannot sell wine. They're only allowed to sell those horrendous non-alcoholic "wine products."  We can only buy from wine shops. But there is a great place just over the Goethals Bridge from us in Elizabeth, NJ - Bayway. They're actually more popular for their selection of beers and sodas. But the first time I went there several years ago I was amazed and like a kid in a candy store - The price and selection of wines is phenomenal! Very well worth the trip if you're anywhere near there.


Reply by JonDerry, Sep 14, 2016.

You are definitely the bargain bin hunter Seahawk!

Hungarian Bull's blood is one I should re-familiarize myself with. I've been to Eger once, about 6 years or so ago and liked the wines, though it was just about the time my interest in wine was getting sparked, so I wasn't nearly fanatical as I am now but what a beautiful city Eger is. Hungarian, Spanish, and Portugese reds can offer tremendous value, along with Italy and some regions in France. Much more interesting than any Crane Lake or Leese Fitch, too.

Whats your top price for special occasion wine?

I notice CUNE from Spain has their 2010 Gran Reserva out now for about $28 give or take, though it's probably a wine best enjoyed in 5-10+ years.

Reply by seahawk73, Sep 15, 2016.

Hi JONDERRY! As I mentioned , I look for the best wines at the lowest prices.  Not just for myself, but I've had many friends who are new to wine ask me about this.  As I mentioned, exploring all types and prices, from all coutries and regions is really enjoyable. 

I really have no top price for a special occasion wine, but I can tell you that it would be my all-time favorite - a St. Emilion.

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