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It seems I am off to France

Posted by bostonlobsterman, Sep 13, 2016.

Short trip. Will be very busy but not too so to taste the wine. At Boston Logan Aitport. 

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 13, 2016.

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Reply by rckr1951, Sep 13, 2016.

Send some pictures and let us know about your wine experience there.  Safe journey.

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Reply by duncan 906, Sep 13, 2016.

Where in France are you going?

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 13, 2016.

I go into the little corner outside Geveva. Close to Lyon and Burgundy. 

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Reply by duncan 906, Sep 13, 2016.

There should be plenty of wine producers within range.Have you been there before?

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Reply by dmcker, Sep 13, 2016.

Based in Geneva? Plenty of good food and drink in that town, though not always the cheapest. Even some country restaurants nearby that're very good. Can tell you about some great smoked seabass in a fine restaurant (that matched some Domaine de Chevalier or Montrachet variant white just fine) which was a touchstone for my visits in the '90s and naughties.

Think he's been several times, Duncan.

Well either make Evian suffice, or take a surgical strike into Lyon? Otherwise get some local expertise and find a country restaurant. Alternatively, if you're visiting vineyards (harvest soon, so busy but festive), go Swiss and chase down opportunities in Valais (1st choice but further) or Vaud (2nd)? Should still be warm enough that chasselas and Oeil de Perdrix will hit the spot. Swiss pinot noir is light enough to work, too, of course, even without airconditioning. But that theoretical trip to Lyon could certainly nuke them all.

I thought you were just joking about some Bordeaux blends at a shop inside Logan while on a trip elsewhere.  ;-)

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

DMC-  agree with all. This is my usual loop so been here many times each year. Even lived here for a few years. So I guess I am practically local. 

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Reply by GregT, Sep 14, 2016.

Great food. Here's hoping you have some good wine. You're near Beaujolais as well.

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

St Amour, a mindless French film about a wild wine tour but perfectly entertaining for the ride:

Three unlikely heroes take to the road in this broad comedy (think Sideways sans pathos), featuring improbable sex and a kooky cameo from Michel Houellebecq

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

Gregt- Chiroubles, Brouilly, and St Amour amongst my favorite in a great year. 

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

Nice selection of affordable, very drinkable wine in my local small village market. There are three sections:

a bit upper scale

 

Champagne

 

And table wines. For my jet-lag wine I chose Valori 2014 Chateauneuf du Pape at the princely sum of 14.5 euros.

The CdP has some good independent ratings. The very first sip is strong and tingling and lingers in the throat. It was screaming "throw some meat in there" so I opened a pack of viande séchée. Much better. This one is a flavorful but a little bold out of the gate. Probably better next year. 

 

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Reply by Really Big Al, Sep 14, 2016.

Looks like a fun trip and you started it off the right way in the airport lounge with a cab sampler.  We enjoyed our Viking River Cruise down the Rhone last year, and we also had a red wine sampler in the airport.  I hope you discover some wonderful wines!  Will you be trying frog legs or escargot? 

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Reply by duncan 906, Sep 14, 2016.

For the benefit of all the day-trippers most of the restaurants in Calais serve frogs legs and snails although they are not common in the rest of France. Many years ago I went on a booze run with my sister and she took her daughter with her. Daughter was eight at the time although she is married now. At the restaurant lunch she insisted on having snails although her mother thought thgat she would not eat them. She did eat them and then she cleaned the shells with her napkin and put them in her pocket. Apparently the next day at school she showed them to all her classmates as evidence that she had eaten snails.

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Reply by dmcker, Sep 14, 2016.

You're less than 15 minutes from Geneva, I'm assuming, so for old-skool these are two places I used to periodically hit:

I've actually stayed at the hotel side of both those joints when I wanted away from the big hotels on the lake, and didn't want to stay with relatives. The first one is one of the old-town standbys for fondue, raclette and plenty more. The 2nd is the more relaxed countryside experience, with very good food. Both have decent wine lists. Neither place is particularly hip, but they've stood the test of time. Neither is particularly cheap, though the first place, in town, should be easier on the pocketbook. They do provide relative value, though, IMHO.

The delectable smoked seabass mentioned earlier was in a French restaurant in what used to be the Noga Hilton right on the lake. Very good winelist there. Back in the '90s most often dodged from that side of Geneva straight into France since the French Franc was a lot weaker than the Swiss. Lyon pulled hard, but took a bit more commitment since it's a couple of hours by train or car. If time allows, it's certainly worth it, of course.

 

Oh, and Duncan, plenty of escargot across France but particularly on the Burgundy side of things. I'm with you on the paucity of frog legs on most menus, though.

 

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

Yes the escargot are available around here. The grenouille not so much but there is a place in the Jura that specializes in them. Reminds me I am due.  They both are an excuse to carry huge quantities of garlic and thus I do enjoy them. Sort of like a dose of the Gilroy garlic festival. 

DMC-  the airport place is not too far from the lab. 

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Reply by dmcker, Sep 14, 2016.

BLM, yeah I figured it was pretty close to Meyrin. It's generally considered the best country restaurant (some might lose the word 'country') in the whole greater Geneva area. Extremely nice experience but looks like prices may have gone up since I was last there.

The Jura is also within relative striking distance, but requires more time than something surgical to Lyons. Very different wines there, though I do like many of them. That's a chardonnay of a different color.

Now for a curveball, and not quite on the same level as the others I've mentioned so far but still interesting and worthy, you could always go for the very distinctively local cheese beignets (called malakoff, a quirky relic of the Crimean War) and more at Luins. It's smack dab in the middle of the vineyards in Vaud. The Swiss do like their cheese.  ;-)

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

DMC- Vaud is another great place. I love the terraced vineyards along the lake with a view to the mountains across the lake. I attended a rather long memorial service last night for a fallen comrade. Not wanting to crash too early I opened up a Chiroubles. Slightly fruity at the open as can be typical with Beaujolais, yet full favored all the way down and served its purpose with a midnight snack of Swiss cheese. Only 8.25 euro at the local market.

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Reply by dmcker, Sep 14, 2016.

I used to stay in a house in an area called Bellevue where the view out the dining room window was Mont Blanc, big and sassy while looming majestically over Lac Leman, with swans in their little private port for their sailboats, there in the foreground. Perhaps that view of the mountain was what inspired me to climb it one winter.

If you need to be snacking in the room, could do a lot worse than Switzerland with their dried meats, cheeses and all that accessible wine--and end summer/beginning harvest season now, so plenty of cheap fruit, as well.  Even out at restaurant, those meats, a cheese dish and a salad and wine--what more needed?

Sounds like you are crossing the border to shop!  So refreshing with the lack of formalities there. Like what Canada and the US used to be if anyone can remember pre-9/11.

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Reply by bostonlobsterman, Sep 14, 2016.

I often stay on the French side as I am now because there is a lot more bang for the buck. CERN is split between France and Switzerland, although the main buildings are in CH. The accelerator is so big (25 km) that our experiment is many km away in the village of Cessy. Some of the local villages still walk the cows through the streets in the evening. 

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