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Posted by sylviad, Nov 20, 2013.

hello everyone; Well, I continue to surprise myself. I do not blog or tweet or post or bbm or any of those other cool social media-type things. But I tripped across this site while searching for info on a bottle of wine I bought almost a year ago and here I am! It looks very interesting so I'm taking the posting plunge!

Just wondering if anyone might be able to help me find something. I am really only a beginner when it comes to wine, but I loved this wine so much, I am on the prowl for more. It seems to have disappeared from Canada, so I'm reaching is an organic malbec, 2008, from Fantelli.

anyone have any ideas?


Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 20, 2013.

I started the same way, looking for information on a couple of wines I had enjoyed.  And now look at me:  friends, meetups, untold hours frittered away here.  May your luck be as good. 

Sadly, I can't help much on that Malbec, at least not from experience.  I did find a corporate website, but it doesn't seem to link to distributors.  Vinesse and TotalWine did carry it in the past, but don't seem to have it now.  Maybe they lost their distribution in the US (and where you are if that's not the US). 

If you have a good local wine shop, you could consider asking the proprietor to look into ordering some for you.  You probably need to commit to at least a case unless you are a highly valued customer with a long history of buying lots of wine.  You probably will pay regular retail--the advantage to the owner is that he knows its going to sell through and s/he scores loyalty points.  But that's only if there IS a distributor for the wine in your area.  And you probably won't see that vintage again, unless you chance upon it lying around in some distributor's warehouse.  I'm not a Malbec drinker, but my impression is that the fans of Malbec are buy and drink types, not vintage hounds.  (Now wait for the protestations to the contrary to flood in.)

Reply by sylviad, Nov 20, 2013.

Thanks for the advice. I think I'll look into a local shop. And yes, let's see who comes out of the woodwork over that Malbec comment!


Reply by GregT, Nov 21, 2013.

Well you should probably look for more general Malbec.  A couple of things to keep in mind - surprisingly a lot of it is organic or at least pesticide-free. Why is that? Because where they have to use sprays and chemicals are places like Burgundy and Bordeaux where it rains a lot and the weather isn't all that great. Most Malbec in the US and Canada comes from a region in Argentina called Mendoza which is very high in the mountains and very dry- it's essentially high desert. So they don't have a lot of fungal problems so they don't spray. ANd they have water from the snow melt in the Andes to irrigate if needed, but very little need to do some of the things that the Burgundians have to do.

So even some of the cheaper stuff is not all that treated either in the vineyard or bodega. That's not true in all cases of course, but it's something people don't think about a lot.

Second, the prices of cheap Malbec are coming to an end soon. The inept and corrupt government has set about destroying whatever parts of the economy it can, and it's ruining the wine business through taxes, export fees, debasing the currency, and whatever else it can mess up.

Still, enjoy it while you can. And there are producers outside of Mendoza as well, and increasing numbers of them. The Malbecs from those regions are quite different from the heavy, fruity ones in Mendoza. Going north, which in the Northern Hemisphere would correspond to going south, i.e. closer to the equator, the vineyards get even higher. They are in fact the highest in the world. The quality of the sun and heat in those spaces is unlike anything in Europe or the US and definitely affects the wine.Try something from Salta vs Mendoza and you'll see. Likewise heading farther south, towards Antarctica, it gets colder so things are lower and the wines are quite different. Try something from Patagonia and you'll see.

Good luck.

Reply by duncan 906, Nov 21, 2013.

If you like Malbec,have you tried Cahors from France?

Reply by jescobio, Jan 25, 2014.

Im loving the "organic" term in so many postings.  Not so much on this site but its making its rounds again...what is this 2007 again.....

Reply by dvogler, Jan 26, 2014.

Sylvia, where in Canada are you?  I'm in Victoria BC.  I might be able to give you some direction.

Reply by outthere, Jan 26, 2014.

You lost me at Malbec :(  

Everyone has their Kryptonite, for me its wine from that grape.


Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 26, 2014.

I read probably a couple dozen emails a day from flash sites, stores I like, friends who have a lead on something... but I delete the ones that say malbec.  I responded to our new user to be welcoming, and I have no problem with helping her find malbec, but I bet I haven't had a glass of it in three years.  I've tried wines from Cahors, too, and they didn't really do that much for me, although they are distinct from the S. American ones.

"Organic" has become a much more slippery word since the USDA got involved and big food companies started buying "organic" producers for their portfolio.  Not a bad topic for an article. 

Reply by JonDerry, Jan 26, 2014.

OT - I hear Lagier Meredith makes a good one, but I tend to agree as far as new world Malbec goes. From the few French examples Ive tried, I like those much better.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Jan 26, 2014.

Nope, for me it's all Malbec.  Decent blending grape (I feel the same about Merlot, which is the perfect blender for Sangio) but not a good grape to lead a blend or stand on its own.

Reply by napagirl68, Jan 26, 2014.

Reply by outthere, 12 hours ago.   You lost me at Malbec :(  Everyone has their Kryptonite, for me its wine from that grape.\


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