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I am in love! With Pinot Noir, anyone else???

Original post by napagirl68, Oct 20, 2010.

Would love your recommendations as well!

I have found a few I REALLY like, and a few I've tried that I THOUGHT might fit the bill, and did not.

Gracianna is my fav - tasted 2008 Bacigalupi Vineyards Gracianna and LOVED it at Taste of Sonoma.....  I also like Lioco- 2008 "sonoma coast" pinot noir...   Another favorite is the Cosentino 2006 Sonoma Pinot Noir.

I had a love/hate relationship with Pinot previously... I originally was drinking small lot pinot from the inland central coast of California.... we're talking deep purple, high alcohol.  Was like a syrah gone bad!!  14.8% alcohol!!!

Anyway, I have come to find some I like from the Sonoma region (esp. the coastal), and some from Willamette in Oregon as well.. But only a few so far...I find some of the Willamette Pinot watery, and too dry and one dimensional.

I tend to like a true red color that is almost clear- prefer alcohol under 14%, and dislike huge fruitbombs.  I like cherries, leather, earth, barnyard nose.  Overall, prefer the wine to be "lighter" than a damned syrah, but to finish a bit deeper than some of the watery pinots I have had in the past.  I guess I want to start a bit lighter, and end with depth, meaning a range of flavors that develops gradually over the palate.  Hope that makes some sense.

Sooo.. give me suggestions!!!  Doesn't have to be just Sonoma... would love to hear all your favs in all price ranges!

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Reply by penguinoid, Nov 8, 2010.

For those of you reading this in Australia, keep an eye out for Lucy Margaux Vineyards and Ngeringa, both from the Adelaide Hills, both of whom make excellent Pinot Noirs. Sadly, I don't think either export much/anything as far as I know.

I've also heard good things about Bass Phillips Wines's Pinot Noirs, from Gippsland in Victoria. They're out of my price range, though, so can't speak from experience.

I keep meaning to try Oregon Pinot Noir, so will have to keep an eye out for any I can find.

Reply by Stephen Harvey, Nov 9, 2010.


Bass Phillip is arguably Australias best particularly the Premium and Estate, Phillip Jones also does a very small run of his Reserve.  I would rate his best vintages of Reserve with some of the mid level premier cru's of Burgundy.  They are however priced in the same expensive bracket!

As a South Aussie I will keep and eye out for the two you mention, very little available even in local bottle shops!

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 9, 2010.

We get lots of single vineyard, tightly allocated stuff here.  Here's a sample list of stuff I've tasted that hasn't done much for me.  Most of these are from various vineyards and vintages:

Patz and Hall, Flowers, Calera, Radio-Coteau, Hitching Post, Ken Brown, Testarossa, Williams and Selyem, Sea Smoke, Acacia, Auteur, Sanford, Martinelli, Siduri, Rivers-Marie, Copain, Kistler, Marcassin, Kosta Browne, Rhys...

I think I'll just have to chalk it up to PN not being my thing,  I'm open to Burgish-style suggestions, though, if anyone has them.

Reply by penguinoid, Nov 9, 2010.

Stephen Harvey -- I've only heard good things about Bass Phillips, and it does seem to be mentioned in the context of being amongst Australia's best wines (e.g. how it's rated in Langton's Classification of Australian Wines). I'm keen to try one of them some day, but my wallet isn't :-(

If you're anywhere near Adelaide, East End Cellars often have Lucy Margaux and Ngeringa wines in stock, when they're available (Lucy Margaux wines tend to sell out quickly).

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 10, 2010.

GDD... i wouldn't call those "tightly" allocated... except for maybe the sea smoke... but i will say that patz and hall, williams salyem, testarossa, siduri, acacia... they all have mutiple labels.... some are their "good" labels, and others are outstanding...

and the guys from hitching post are a blast to hang out with! : )

if you do get a chance to try the bedrock that i mentioned before, or even something from freeman, i would like to hear your thoughts on those... better yet, if you ever make it out my way (san fran), i would love to set up a tasting with different reps and go through some good pinot books....

Reply by Tyler Worth, Nov 10, 2010.

Wow. We've got some amazing suggestions on here so far. It's Pinot Noir Week on my site right now, and I'm going to be featuring some great ones. Yesterday we had four Pinots from Flying Goat Cellars from the Central Coast that were awesome, and today I've got something really different from the Temecula Valley. Planning to cover Oregon and Burgundy later in the week. If you'd like to check it out, head over to What's Worth Drinking: Cheers, and let's keep this topic going.

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 10, 2010.

wow... pinot in temecula... i had always assumed it was too hot there for pinot... i guess thats what i get for assuming again!

whats the name of the producer down there? i'd like to keep an eye out...

Reply by Stephen Harvey, Nov 10, 2010.


I will be East End next day or two so I will ask Michael or Gus if they have some


Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 10, 2010.

"but i will say that patz and hall, williams salyem, testarossa, siduri, acacia... they all have mutiple labels.... some are their "good" labels, and others are outstanding"

That's why I mentioned multiple vineyards above.  ;) 

Example, we don't see much in the way of, say, Marcassin 'Marcassin Vineyard' PN out here.  Is it easy to find in CA?  I thought they had a pretty long waiting list.  My rep made the gift bottle seem like he had to jump through some hoops for it, which is funny, since as noted, it's wasted on me, as I don't much care for the grape.

Thanks for the offer.  Once I pop this kid out, I'ma get mah drank on!

Reply by StevenBabb, Nov 10, 2010.

congrats on the baby... and the strength to hold out for 9 months

: )

Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Nov 10, 2010.

Halfway there!  And thanks.

Reply by penguinoid, Nov 10, 2010.

Stephen - good luck - sometimes they have them, sometimes not, depending on whether they've sold out or not. Good idea to ask, as the single vineyard wines are labelled with the vineyard name, not Lucy Margaux Vineyards. They also make a multi-vineyard blend as Domaine Lucci Pinot Noir. The single vineyard wines are not cheap (c. $40), but worth trying once.

I tried the 2008 Little Creek Pinot Noir, but in that vintage at least the other vineyards seem to have done better.

I think East End Cellars also sell Ngeringa's pinot noir. Their pinot noirs are quite different in style to Lucy Margaux Vineyard's.

Reply by napagirl68, Nov 10, 2010.

I am LOVING all the suggestions!

While in Napa, at a restaurant, I had a glass of this:

I also liked this... it matched my preferences which I mentioned in the OP.   Recommend it, although the Lioco still tops my favs so far.

Reply by JJHACamp, Nov 11, 2010.

Interesting thread..first post here for me...personally i'm a huge fan of CA Central Coast pinot...some that i haven't seen mentioned yet are Stephen Ross, Melville and Tantara..

I'd never say though that another style or type of wine as bad..cause everyone's palate is different..

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