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How to undo "falling out" with friends
Posted by GregT, Oct 30.

I finally got around to clicking on all the kind people who listed me as a friend. And inadvertently I clicked a few and got a note that I had a falling out and no longer wanted them as friends. And since I was using a Mac, which I hate, there's no double click and only one button and in my panicked state, I confirmed that choice.

But that's not true and now I don't know who they were. So if I unfriended anyone, sorry about that. It's not personal. I really didn't mean it.

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Reply by Philip, Oct 30.

When you unfriend someone they are not notified. If you remember who it was you can refriend them and it will be back to the same position as if you had accepted the friend request originally.

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 30.

So Greg, why do you hate Macs? Seems a mite curmodgeonly... ;-)

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Reply by GregT, Oct 31.

Mostly because I'm so used to Windows and do a lot by reflex. But for start, no double click, no right click, all the windows have to be sized, you have to use the mouse or touchpad, the keyboard commands are more tedious, and the particular one I was using happened to have a smaller than normal keyboard, which isn't a problem with the Mac per se but it didn't help either.

Basically, I don't do graphics, etc., and mostly I use the computer for typing. Any time you need to take your hand off the keyboard to use a touchpad or mouse, you slow down and it's really irritating if you are proficient in any way. The windows keyboard is set up so commands for highlighting a word, a sentence, moving about in a spreadsheet or word processing document, etc., become reflexes - the control and alt key are close at hand and convenient. I can hit the three keys to save a file in less than a second and don't think about it. So since I"m used to that, I hate the product I don't know.

My wife and her friends are musicians and they like their Macs.

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Reply by Eric Guido, Oct 31.

I have the same thing with my wife being a graphic artist. I can understand how you feel about the things listed above and I guess it doesn't bug me as much because I'm used to switching back and forth on a daily basis. I will say that the whole marketing of MAC's being resilient to viruses is real ad a big plus. Seems like I have IT working on my work PC monthly but have yet to have a single problem with my MAC.

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Reply by GregT, Oct 31.

I've been switching back and forth lately and all in all, still prefer the PC. However, I will give this to the Mac - it's a lot easier to add a DNS if you want to connect to a particular site that's got some security. W the PC you have to modify the lmhost file and with the Mac you just use a drop down menu.

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 31.

As expected it's mostly a case of past time invested in the steep Windows learning curve more than anything else. I've run offices where we used Windows (and even MS-DOS before that), Macs, Unix and Linux collectively, and productivity is *always* higher on the Macs than on Windows. Not only in performing any task, even on MSOffice SW, but in stable machine operation over time, ease of networking (though Unix is even better) and many other things. Lots more crashes and freezes with Windows, and 'security' can't even be mentioned with that platform. Plus you need a lot more techies/expertise with Windows just to keep things running, especially with networks. The only advantage for the platform has been absolute number of programs available, but unless you're into trying out every new game that isn't really an issue, anyway. Vested interest in maintaining over-inflated, underperforming, built-on-a-house-of-cards, harder-to-learn programming and computer operating skills is the main rationale.

I could go on with this rant, but will stop here. ;-) Just give one machine each to a new learner, and see on which he or she is performing better that day, a day later, a month later, or five years later. And not just on 'graphics' programs. Also see which brings more happiness to the user, and which he or she ultimately chooses when asked to pick one...

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Reply by GregT, Oct 31.

I don't disagree but it's like the old DOS commands. Once you learn them they're second nature and it's harder to unlearn something than to actually learn it in the first place. Hence my frustration. When I managed an IT shop, we used all MS products though. Not because they were necessarily better, only because the rest of the organization used them and it was far easier to have everyone learn one thing than to have people who needed to develop dual expertise. There was a lot of resistance to giving up Novell and going to NT at the time, and I actually agreed with the objectors, but still made the decision and then put myself thru the MCSE course just so they couldn't claim they weren't able to learn.

Long time ago. However, there is a wonderful program called Virtual Windows that runs on the Mac and son of a gun, it's just like home!

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 31.

Depending on the version of the Mac OS you're using, you can reboot and come up in Windows proper, without having to add the load of another program. Programs to run Macs as Windows boxes have been around since the flood, but I never saw the point of wasting that processor capacity.

Everyone I've ever worked and talked with over the last 20 years has chosen Mac over Windows when they've had a chance to work with both. Unix jocks are a different animal, of course, but even they'll choose Macs when not allowed to build their own Linux boxes....

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Reply by GregT, Oct 31.

On one computer it's the most recent Mac OS. If I boot up in Windows proper, will all the utilities act exactly like Windows? That could save a lot of trouble.

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Reply by dmcker, Oct 31.

I don't use Windows on Mac machines (barely use Windows at all anymore, for that matter). Though I have seen Macs booting up on many occasions in Windows. Just another Windows machine, I suppose, running off the same HD and other peripherals as the Mac side of the machine. I can't really tell you much about whether it can access any of the programs running under any part of the Mac OS (and since it's Sunday morning here and I'm about to head out the door I don't think I'll spend the next hour or more exploring, either... ;-) ).



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