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Posted by ptorrealbag, Feb 23, 2013.

I'm chilean and french (nobody is perfect...), and I enjoy running, good meat and wines (in any order).

I hope to have my own wine in a few years, just for family drinking, nothing fancy. I'll plant 75% Cabernet Sauvignon (that's 375 vine plants) and 25% Syrah (125 plants), at about 50km south of Santiago (Chile). They will go close to the walnut trees I already have with my father.


Reply by gastrotraveling, Feb 23, 2013.

Sounds like a great family vineyard to start! "Micro wineries" will be the next "farm-to-table"

Reply by EMark, Feb 23, 2013.

Welcome to the Snooth Forum.  Everybody here is agrees with you on the enjoyment of wine.  Many, including me, agree with your enjoyment of meat.  Some, definitely me, don't necessarily enjoy running.

There are several fans of Chilean wines here on the Forum and pretty much everybody enjoys learning.  While, I have some appreciation of Chilean wines, I really do not have much experience and look forward to learning from you.

Reply by amour, Feb 25, 2013.

Are you planning to be bio-dynamic in any form or fashion?

And are you having a female wine-maker, since I gather that there are several?

Reply by ptorrealbag, Feb 25, 2013.

I'll have to investigate about the "bio-dynamic" methods (i'm an agronomist, but I don't work in agriculture for a loooong time)... But as it will not be my main production (the 500 vines will be near some 650 wallnut trees), I'm quite sure I wont be able to do somtehing completely separated.

To choose the 2 cepages I'll use, I went to a vineyard my father knows (Viña Aquitania), and it was a female wine-maker who adviced me of using Cabernet Sauvignon and Syrah. In fact, I wanted to use Merlot and maybe some Carmenere (for the "chilean touch"), but she said that the place I have my small plot is not suitable for those cepages... And I have to admit I'll try to make use of a professional in the area whom helps small producers (like I hope to be) to produce their wine. In fact that person does the winemaking process (fermentation and some aging of the wine) and teaches you to do it at the same time. I'll see then if I want to invest (time and money) on that later. Told you it was not going to be fancy!!

And for thos of you who want to experiment chilean wines, I recommend looking for the Viña Aquitania Lazuli... The winemaker is a french (I think) who lives for several years now in Chile.

Reply by amour, Feb 25, 2013.

Very interesting indeed!


Let us keep in touch and follow your progress.

Best of everything to you!

Reply by EuNatural, Feb 25, 2013.

That's a wonderful idea. It is great that you made your own vineyard to plant plants for your wine products. I would like to hear from you soon as this would result to a wonderful outcome.

Reply by Richard Foxall, Feb 26, 2013.

Gotta say I love the use of cepages! We need a little foreign influence here.

I have toyed with the idea of growing grapes when I retire from my current job.  I'm glad to see someone take the leap.  Interesting that you had some idea of what you wanted to grow, but your advisor swayed you in another direction. My own approach, if I take the leap, since I don't already have land, is to pick the grapes I want to grow and then find the right place to grow them, hopefully somewhere that hasn't been overrun and priced out of reach.

I haven't gotten that excited about Chilean wine except Carmenere so far, maybe because I live so close to Napa and Sonoma that the Chilean wines don't seem like a big bargain to me.  But the Carmenere is unique and amazing. Easily one of my favorite reds, and nothing I prefer in the winter with a bowl of beef stew with cumin and olives.  (I like meat, too, and I like running but the ruptured disk in my back has put at least a temporary halt to that.)

That said, I hope that the wine you make for yourself is successful and, if you decide to sell it, I would be much more interested in trying something made by someone whose story we know.

And as far as I am concerned, being a mixture beats being inbred, even if half of that mixture is French!  As the winemakers of the Southern Rhone know, it's all in the blending.

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